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The Last Cainanite on 3 Things I Wish I Knew Then

2010-03-20T23:13:03Z

Allen wants to give illegals citizenship because they tend to be uneducated poor from Latin America and thus most likely very conservative Catholics. More such citizens --> more politicians like Bart "I only listen to Catholic Bishops, Focus on the Family and National Right to Life" Stupak ... >>>>> Read Entire Post

dingo on 3 Things I Wish I Knew Then

2010-03-20T02:28:05Z

So, the goverment doesn't do it's job on the borders, the mexicans come into our country illegally take our jobs at a much lower wage, use our resources,Many have committed crimes and have killed american citizens ( many through drunk driving) and you want to give them citizenship! Hey dude maybe it means nothing to you but there are a lot of americans that don't have jobs and I personally don't think they should have to be competing with people who broke the law to enter the country in the first place.Furthermore, the fact that you think a national I.D card is a good idea is short sighted at best, the goverment would use it against us. Why should our rights and freedoms be abridged because of someone elses criminal actions? Let's not forget that along with a growing number comes political power and that means easing the immigration laws, they are doing that already and they're still illegal.The only thing the hispanic illegals offer is cheap labor and that just lowers the wages across the board. Compasion is a good thing, maybe a little for the americans that can't feed there children or the construction workers that lost there jobs to mexican or the relatives of those killed and mamed by your beloved illegals would be in order. >>>>> Read Entire Post

The Last Cainanite on 3 Things I Wish I Knew Then

2010-03-18T01:33:34Z

Allen Hunt said in a tweet...
And yes I know, this is the last year of Idol. Once Simon is gone, it is ovaaahhh.

We can only hope. And pray, if we're so inclined.

Lost my cell phone overnight, then my home phone got hit by lightning this morning. God has given me a nice gift today. Silence is golden.

You keep crediting your god for weirdest (and not all that improbable) things. Instead of taking away your gadgets why doesn't he just give you a modicum of self control? But I guess such drastic measures fit better with GMatt. 5:29-30 and 18:8-9!

Does anyone besides me not really care whether Wal-Mart charges less for black Barbies than for white ones?

I don't know how I will sleep at night. But seriously, who is upset this time? White soccer moms who have to shell out a few more pennies for a toy for their precious daughters or professional black offended-ers complaining that that means black dolls are less desirable (and thus cannot command as high a markup.)
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The Last Cainanite on Hayworth and McCain: Where's the Faith?

2010-03-18T00:24:33Z

Allen Hunt said in the OP...

I would vastly prefer to hear about a candidate's moral compass. What core values shape who you are? What shapes how you lead? Whose lives have you impacted through your compassion and generosity? What examples can you give me about your decision-making process and how your faith informs that? Faith matters.

To my layman's eyes both McCain and Hayworth have provided that, in different ways (not that I agree with either of them). I do not quite get what you are missing.

By the way, McCain moved to the right quite a bit since 2000, even cozying up to Jerry Falwell, whom he called an "agent of intolerance" just a few years before.
That he is still unacceptable to the Teabagger movement (Hayworth is a Tea Party candidate) speaks volumes about them. ... Read Entire Post

The Last Cainanite on 3 Things I Wish I Knew Then

2010-03-18T00:06:04Z

Allen Hunt said in the OP...
3) Have a lot of kids. Contrary to what our culture teaches right now, kids will likely be the best part of your life. Have a bunch of them.

I'd like to have kids someday (but as George Costanza correctly pointed out, you have to have a date first). However, in today's world, aything beyond 5 kids is ridiculous and more than 10 is grotesque.

The Duggars are some of the most successful Americans.

The Duggars are quite insane (only adjective fitting having 19 children!) and can only provide for such a humongous brood by pimping their kids to Discovery Health (not unlike John+Kate+8).
If everyone behaved like the Duggers there would be 60 billion people on the face of the Earth within a generation! Within 2, 600 billion. After a century, 60 trillion! Gotta love the exponential function. ... Read Entire Post

Justice on Mama says Protesters are the Devil

2010-03-13T18:30:59Z

And can you extend your use of statistics please by stating the oh so important "n" >>>>> Read Entire Post

The Last Cainanite on Black History Month: Favorite Emails

2010-03-12T10:59:54Z

Butch said in comment # 1...
The Montesano man who lost his life on a dark and damp night does not deserve the disdain you postulated. Read all of the story.

You are talking about the power line peer, right? Pray tell, what is the rest of the story? ... Read Entire Post

The Last Cainanite on Black History Month: Favorite Emails

2010-03-12T09:47:24Z

Allen Hunt said in the OP...
A handful agree with me that the teachers should be fired. Most do not - of course, they are wrong :)

In other words, you believe that a convicted federal felon who likes to torture dogs for fun and profit deserves a second chance to make millions while schoolteachers who chose controversial people for BHM don't deserve a second chance to make 50k a year? Does not compute!

And I'll give you that OJ is undoubtedly a very poor choice, but what's so wrong about RuPaul or Dennis Rodman? I'd certainly rather have either one of them than Michael "Puppy Killer" Vick!

Even more think that Black History Month should be eliminated altogether. A point of view that actually thinks that the average white American knows a lot (or at least enough) about the contributions of black Americans, particularly in the 18th and 19th centuries to America's development. I could not disagree more.

No it does not. Nobody is arguing that contributions of black Americans to American history should not be covered in history class, just that it is inappropriate and anachronistic to lump say Sojourner Truth, Barack Obama and George Washtington Carver in the same month just because of the color of their skin.
Admit it - you like to harp on against political correctness and "being offended" but you can be just as bad as the next guy when a raw nerve is touched. Now I know you are particularly sensitive here because you are a Southerner (and a Catholic and we all know Catholicism is good at cultivating irrational guilt feelings) but George Wallace's body is moldering in the grave and his soul is definitely not marching on!
Not to say that there aren't still major racial problems to be overcome but insisting on separating certain people form the mainstream "for their own good" smacks of paternalism and its own brand of racism. Besides, we are talking about elementary school kids here - they do not even remember a time when Barack Obama wasn't a national figure. Hell, even their parents were, by and large, born after the civil rights era. And while it is important for them to learn American history - all of it, good, bad and ugly, they are not going to consider say a black president or an interracial couple unusual.
BHM is a very bad idea for another reason: it makes no sense historically. There is really no such thing as "black history" - American history is intertwined in such a way that it cannot be meaningfully separated. For example,. you cannot talk about MLK and give the man his due by merely focusing on civil rights movement and ignoring his work on poverty and anti-war activism, which directly affected Americans regardless of race.

Louis said in an email...
3. Another man who is often included but should be excluded from African-American month is Malcom X. He was a racist, and should not be included with the likes of Rev. Martin Luther King.

I could not disagree more! Not that I am some sort of apologist for Malcolm X (aka Malcolm Little aka El-Hajj Malik El-Shabazz) but he was a significant figure of his day. Who says only the "good guys" should be included in the study of history? You'd end up teaching 20th century world history without mentioning either Hitler or Stalin!
And yes, MX should be included with Martin Luther King, especially to contrast their very different approaches to black liberation.
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Butch on Black History Month: Favorite Emails

2010-03-12T05:13:49Z

Can't know how to directly address the last comment you muttered.
The Montesano man who lost his life on a dark and damp night does not deserve the disdain you postulated. Read all of the story.
Quick to judge, long to actually understand the circumstance.
BMC >>>>> Read Entire Post

The Last Cainanite on Mama says Protesters are the Devil

2010-03-10T17:04:39Z

Allen Hunt said in the OP...
Boucher is best remembered for his line, �Mama says, mama says, mama says, girls are the devil.�

Led Zeppelin knew it in the 60s:
Lots of people talk and few of them know,
Soul of a woman was created below.

Erik said in comment # 3...
Now let me go a step further- if you are a person who believes abortion is murder, then I think you are obligated to stop that murder by any means necessary. If not, then you are a hypocrite and a coward.

Good points Erik, especially this one. You can't have it both ways. If abortion is murder, then 99% of so-called pro-life people, including and especially those that consider themselves leaders and/or activists, are way too blas� about it. But if it is not murder, what's wrong with abortion being legal in the first place?
And about all this histrionics about late-term abortions, here are some facts and figures:
half of all abortions in the US happen before the 9th week of pregnancy, almost 90% in the first trimester. Only 1% occur after the 20th week (i.e. about halfway-point of normal human gestational period of 37-40 weeks) of pregnancy and these are almost exclusively for medical, not elective reasons. The myth that women elect to terminate their pregnancy in the 8th or 9th month willy-nilly is just that - a myth. ... Read Entire Post

The Last Cainanite on Candidate for Public Office

2010-03-10T16:41:56Z

Erik said in comment # 1...
Or
Catholicism.

No kidding. The Vatican even has official exorcists.
It's funny how theists make fun and deride non-conventional religious groups that have striking similarities to their own beliefs such as literal existence of souls or exorcisms.
Like Rev. Lovejoy said, "This new so-called religion is nothing but a pack of weird rituals and chants designed to take away the money of fools. Now let's say the Lord's Prayer 40 times, but first let's pass the collection plate.

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Erik on Candidate for Public Office

2010-03-09T18:56:21Z

She captures souls and then sells them.

She sounds like a perfect candidate for Congress.

Or Catholicism.

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Erik on Mama says Protesters are the Devil

2010-03-05T22:12:18Z

Dear Reader: I'm not sure what happened to my indentation, paragraphs, etc in the above mass of text but I assure you there were some. >>>>> Read Entire Post

Erik on Mama says Protesters are the Devil

2010-03-05T22:05:45Z

Christians never tire of playing the persecution card.
The logical infarct which suggests to Allen that these stories are in any way comparable is the same brain disease that leads him to conclude that ritually cannibalizing a man-god can pave the way to heaven.
In case you are suffering from the same disease, let me help you out: the story Allen references as glaring evidence of media bias can be paraphrased thusly- "Crazy person kills other crazy person" Now I ask you, is that really national news? Is that the cause for discussion, debate, hand-wringing, soul-searching, and alarmist editorializing? No. It is not. It happens every day. There is no systematic targeting of abortion protesters. There are no websites devoted to advocating the killing of abortion protesters (a la Neal Horsley's 'Nuremberg files'). Abortion protesters are not routinely called murderers (thus laying moral groundwork for their murder) by demagogues such as Allen Hunt.
The killing of an abortion provider is killing for a principle, a belief. Such events are much more worthy of consideration because they can in some cases be the first shot of a revolution, or at least prelude to more attacks. One crazy killing another is a commonplace and not likely to recur.
Now let me go a step further- if you are a person who believes abortion is murder, then I think you are obligated to stop that murder by any means necessary. If not, then you are a hypocrite and a coward. So let people like Allen- who have aided and abetted the killing of abortion doctors by calling them murderers- let them be proud of their work and of the soldiers who have merely carried out the dictates of their conscience to end what they believe is a mass murder greater than the Holocaust. You bought it. Now own it.

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Lee on Mama says Protesters are the Devil

2010-03-05T20:43:06Z

Thanks for the update Allen, and the recognition of the glaring media inconsistency between coverage of Roeder and Drake. >>>>> Read Entire Post

Erik on Mama says Protesters are the Devil

2010-03-05T12:38:15Z

Just a helping of meat for the Townhall crazies to masticate. Yum Yum eat 'em up.

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MediaSwing Productions on Tiger Lesson: I'll Take A Call Girl Over A Mistress Any Day

2010-03-04T12:45:18Z

If you have some dude paying you BIG bucks to screw him, the VERY least you can do is to shut the f#@$ up. LOL...Agreed, Cecily! >>>>> Read Entire Post

Erik on 7/10 Good or Bad?

2010-03-04T11:14:03Z

Andy Borgmann said in comment # 2...
having sex with one woman a thousand times is infinitely more interesting than having sex with a thousand women one time."

so do both!
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Andy Borgmann on 7/10 Good or Bad?

2010-03-04T11:06:59Z

Erik said in comment # 1...
Asked if he had any advice for the living, he said emphatically that "there is nothing new under the sun; so do yourself a favor and get as much a** as you possibly can."

Either that or he came to the conclusion that getting as much ass as you possibly can is what made life uninteresting. As Steven Tyler - who I have to believe has gotten a lot of ass in his life - once said, "having sex with one woman a thousand times is infinitely more interesting than having sex with a thousand women one time."... Read Entire Post

Erik on 7/10 Good or Bad?

2010-03-03T23:35:47Z

Reached for comment in the abyss, the hoary shade of Solomon stated he would likely marry all 700 wives over again. He added that he "would definitely shtup the concubines" again given the chance. Asked if he had any advice for the living, he said emphatically that "there is nothing new under the sun; so do yourself a favor and get as much a** as you possibly can."

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Bob O'Clock on Yidda Schwarz - My Kind of Gal

2010-03-03T06:47:39Z

Back to Yidda Schwarz.. Talk about a quiver of arrows! >>>>> Read Entire Post

Bob O'Clock on Miracle Show

2010-03-03T06:26:51Z

That last commentary seems kind of cynical. Why couldn't the god who formulated the laws of physics, override those laws on occasion? You have a god who's enormous enough to create the universe with meticulous detail, but who seems to care enough to intervene on behalf of individuals. >>>>> Read Entire Post

The Last Cainanite on Yidda Schwarz - My Kind of Gal

2010-03-02T12:07:10Z

Sugar Bear said in comment # 4...
Feel free to read Romans 9-11 since you guys want to study Paul. I imagine God is quite pleased with Mrs. Schwarz.

Sugar Bear, I am glad to see you in the comments section again!
I find Romans quite schizophrenic most of the time, meandering between positions like a slalom racer.
But I am with Andy in thinking your politically correct views on Jewish salvation are too optmistic. Take Romans 9:30-33 (Israel stumbled due to lack of faith) or 11:17-24 ("natural branches" (Jews) are cut off due to unbelief in Jesus Christ) as well as other passages, including him quoting Isaiah 10:22-23 (out of context) that "only a remnant will be saved" (Isaiah says "returned" and refers to Assyrian exile, not salvation in the Christian sense of course). This to Paul obviously means Jewish Christians who accept Jesus as Messiah and Savior.

Andy Borgmann said in comment # 7...
Both of these are wrong. Paul's point is that both Jews and Gentiles are saved through the "Jewish lineage." In that sense, yes it is true that at a "macro" level, Gentiles would not be allowed through that door if it weren't first offered to the Jews. But at an "individual" level, it's still God's plan for each Jew to accept their Messiah.

You mean the whole "grafting" metaphor, where unbelieving branches of the original tree and new, unrelated branches are graften in? Yes, that strongly implies a sort of supersessionism (replacement theology) where the Church replaces Israel as the covenant people.
But that's by far not the only view of salvation offered in the NT.

Lest we not forget that Jesus' entire ministry was to the Jews. Everything He said about being the Way the Truth and the Life, that was to a Jewish audience. When He talked about heaven and judgment that was to a Jewish audience. I do not see how theologically you can separate Jesus from the Jews.

Jesus you can't but Cristians, includng those who wrote the NT, you definitely can.
Take Matt. 10 vs. Matt. 28 and the disperate views of the comission supposedly given by Jesus.
Matthew 10 (The Local Comission)

⁵These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
⁶But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
⁷And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.
⁸Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.
[...]
¹⁴And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.
¹⁵Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.
²³But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.

This is a very local comission, reflecting a more Jewish outlook (do not even preach to the Samaritans, let alone full-blown Gentiles) and also a belief that the Parousia will occur soon (before the disciples are done preaching to the towns of Israel proper. Whether this goes back to a historial Jesus, who knows, but it reflects an early stratum of Gospel tradition. As Parousia was delayed more and more early Christians needed to adapt. So now we have the resurrected Jesus supposedly saying this:

Matthew 28 (The Great Comission)

¹⁹Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
²⁰20Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

This part definitely does not go to the historical Jesus.

But can they deny Jesus as their Messiah and expect to be in a relationship with God: no.

I agree with you as far as Biblical soteriology is concerned, but obviously I do not think this is a good way to run the universe.
Interesting how Allen usually decries political correctness but has fully embraced it in this case.

Erik - we need to get you a different URL so you stop quoting from the King James Bible. At least go with NASB if the NIV is to pedantic for you :)

NASB, ESV and RSV (as well as JPS for the Hebrew Bible) are all fine translations. NIV is tendentious and not very accurate. KJV has some archaic language and not the best manuscript basis, so it's not the best translation for research but it is still great for quoting scripture due to its majestic (and archaic language enhances that) language and poetic quality.
Besides, KJV keeps colorful turns of phrase and idioms of the original language, like "any that pisseth against the wall" (1 Samuel 25:22 and 34 for example) where more modern translations just say "all males".
I like the Bible Gateway because it has so many different translations, even in different languages than English.
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Erik on Yidda Schwarz - My Kind of Gal

2010-03-02T11:46:50Z

Andy Borgmann said in comment # 7...
Paul's point is that both Jews and Gentiles are saved through the "Jewish lineage."

Could it be, especially in light of the "All Israel shall be saved" bit, that what Paul is driving at is that when we accept Jesus we are "grafted" onto the tree. In other words all who are truly Israel shall be saved?

And what about this little gem for the J man himself: "But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth."
(Matthew 8:12)

It makes a lot more sense this way, especially when you consider Jesus ministry was not exactly a Gentile fest. Can you imagine professor Jesus giving the sermon on the mount, "Ok, Smith, Stevens, Torricelli, Patel- you guys need to stay. Rosen and Epstein- you guys can go ahead and take off. This won't be on your test."

Andy Borgmann said in comment # 7...
PS Erik - we need to get you a different URL so you stop quoting from the King James Bible. At least go with NASB if the NIV is to pedantic for you :)

HERETIC! KJV only!!!!!!!!!!!!... Read Entire Post

Erik on Miracle Show

2010-03-02T11:31:01Z

Besides the fact that this "miracle" stuff is a sickening insult to reality and to the God who created the laws of physics, it is also a depressingly small conception of God. God the miracle worker. God the game player. God as a celestial David Copperfield.

But it has to be, does it not? Tell people the truth and see what happens. They don't want a sublime God, a God who says "the rain falls on the just and the unjust alike." No, they want this cheap God of magic tricks or no God at all.

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Andy Borgmann on Yidda Schwarz - My Kind of Gal

2010-03-02T11:12:55Z

Allen said in comment # 4...
Feel free to read Romans 9-11 since you guys want to study Paul.

Erik said in comment # 6...
Wow, talk about good news.You can deny Jesus and still go to heaven.

Both of these are wrong. Paul's point is that both Jews and Gentiles are saved through the "Jewish lineage." In that sense, yes it is true that at a "macro" level, Gentiles would not be allowed through that door if it weren't first offered to the Jews. But at an "individual" level, it's still God's plan for each Jew to accept their Messiah.

Lest we not forget that Jesus' entire ministry was to the Jews. Everything He said about being the Way the Truth and the Life, that was to a Jewish audience. When He talked about heaven and judgment that was to a Jewish audience. I do not see how theologically you can separate Jesus from the Jews.

Are Jews special in God's eyes: yes.
Is there a different/special relationship there: yes.
Can they still follow the law and follow Jesus: yes.
But can they deny Jesus as their Messiah and expect to be in a relationship with God: no.

PS Erik - we need to get you a different URL so you stop quoting from the King James Bible. At least go with NASB if the NIV is to pedantic for you :)... Read Entire Post

The Last Cainanite on Miracle Show

2010-03-02T11:04:40Z

Allen Hunt said in the OP...
According to the new Pew study, 4 out of 5 of us believe in miracles. Does not surprise me at all.

Does not surprise me either. After all, we are a country where anything the least bit improbable or out of ordinary is labeled a "miracle" ...

Steve Callas said in an email...
In the late 70's I was driving home to Asheville, NC from Orangeburg, SC, after a night of playing a 4 hour gig, stopping in Columbia to down a few drinks, and trying to get home before sunlight.
[...]
Just as I started to veer over into the mountain side I felt hands on top of my hands turn the starring wheel back onto the road.

Wait, the 70s? A music gig? I think I know the cause of this "miracle"!

Smoke on the Water indeed!
Or maybe this:

Dude, if you want alter your consciousness chemically, fine, but don't credit God with the effects!

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Erik on Yidda Schwarz - My Kind of Gal

2010-03-02T10:47:36Z

Wow, talk about good news.You can deny Jesus and still go to heaven.

But maybe Allen is right. Let's look at some of the passage he cites:
Romans 10:1 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.

2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.

3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.

4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

So....

Romans 11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.

which seems to be the take-home message. In fact it seems that Paul goes to great lengths to explain that some people are just SOL and that's that. Paul says that God even creates people just to destroy them because it shows his "glory."
With a God like that who needs a devil!... Read Entire Post

Andy Borgmann on Yidda Schwarz - My Kind of Gal

2010-03-02T07:02:47Z

Feel free to read Romans 9-11 since you guys want to study Paul. I imagine God is quite pleased with Mrs. Schwarz.

Yes because it wasn't like Jesus expected Jews to believe He was the Messiah. That was just for us crazy, godless Gentiles.

I don't buy this interpretation of Romans 9. For a more detailed (read: boring) theological look into why I have my reservations about this interpretation, click here... Read Entire Post

Allen on Yidda Schwarz - My Kind of Gal

2010-03-02T00:51:08Z

Feel free to read Romans 9-11 since you guys want to study Paul. I imagine God is quite pleased with Mrs. Schwarz. >>>>> Read Entire Post

Erik on Yidda Schwarz - My Kind of Gal

2010-02-28T22:27:47Z

I guess the fate of millions of souls is not an important enough subject for him to give an answer. >>>>> Read Entire Post

The Last Cainanite on Yidda Schwarz - My Kind of Gal

2010-02-28T00:53:44Z

Allen Hunt said in the OP...
They later immigrated to America in 1953 � and she eventually birthed a total of 16 kids. I love it!

A devout Hasidic Jew, Yidda saw life as a gift and a blessing from God.
She practiced her faith intently even into her 90's.

To expand Erik's brilliant observation: you Allen often seem to value faith as faith itself, regardless of the object in which it is placed. But obviously faith is misguided if it is a faith in the wrong set of beliefs. If Christianity is true, then Hasidic Judaism is wrong and vice versa.
Like Paul said in 1 Corinthians 15 (emphasis mine):
¹³But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:
¹⁴And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.
¹⁵Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.
¹⁶For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:
¹⁷And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.
¹⁸Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.
¹⁹If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.
Paul understood that if you have faith, and your faith does not correspond to reality then "your faith is vain". And as a Christian you must believe that Mrs. Schwarz's faith did not correspond to reality. And thus, all the rules and prohibitions, slavish observance of the Sabbath. the quaint dress from a bygone era, strict dietary restrictions, having had to endure 16 pregnancies and childbirths etc. were all for naught. In fact, according to orthodox Christianity, she and her family escaped the horrors of Hitler's Holocaust only to end up in a much larger God's Holocaust of which not even death can deliver her. Makes you all warm and fuzzy inside, doesn't it?
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Erik on Yidda Schwarz - My Kind of Gal

2010-02-26T19:17:22Z

It sounds like she denied that Jesus was Lord, so I guess she's in hell now.

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Kjell on Muslim Self-Profiling

2010-02-25T18:41:37Z

I think that people that make comments on this subject that do absolutely no research are foolish.

there was a movie made awhile back that had a interesting take on Muslims in America I urge everyone to watch it

Islam: what the west needs to know >>>>> Read Entire Post

zeitgeist2012 on You did what?

2010-02-25T05:46:48Z

Hey! I got an idea! Lets just keep doping-up and knocking-up all the ignorant women in our society who like to have multiple babies or multiple abortion on a recreational basis, and when the welfare runs out they can all get on SSI, and when the economy collapses?

We should all support big baby killing crack-head pimp daddy O'booboo'man and his Marxist planned parenthood sidekick's agenda of infanticide of our children....

Hopefully, the dynamic-duo will implement planned parenticide next! The world would then be a cost effective paradise.... Oh! Joy! I can't wait!!!! >>>>> Read Entire Post

Erik on You did what?

2010-02-24T17:12:59Z

The Last Cainanite said in comment # 8...
Also with bricks of way too many fast food value meals.

Biggie got laid like crazy. Just have to project sociopathy and they will give it up like you wouldn't believe. It's kind of sad really.

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The Last Cainanite on You did what?

2010-02-24T13:27:53Z

Erik said in comment # 5...
Not nearly as bed as the ancestors of Jesus, Judah and Tamar

Good one. Also not nearly as bad a David's shenenigans with Bathsheeba, yet he was somehow fit to hold office.

Also, not sure what this has to do with the guy's politics, unless he's running as a pro-adultery candidate on the sex-with-Mother-in-Law ticket.

Interestingly, it's pretty hard to find anything about this guy's politics - he does not even seem to have a campaign website. It's mostly a moot point now - he has won his election.

Maybe his family is hurt by it, but certainly none of the electorate is.

And even the hurt to his family is 10 years in the past. Daniel Stout is a poster boy for why marrying too young is not a good idea. He did not have time to sow his wild oats while single for one. He probably also got married just because his then girlfriend got pregnant - a bad idea. On the other hand his ex-wife might have overreacted by getting divorced over this. After all, if he finds her mother sexually attractive chances are he would find her attractive when she is her mother's age as well.

Wouldn't it be worse if the guy was cheating on his taxes or misleading people through false advertising? Doesn't that show a considered, pre-meditated indifference to one's fellow human beings?

Yes, it is very interesting why Allen finds this particular sin so particularly heinous and unforgiveable. After all, Mark 3:28-29 does not say
²⁸Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and fornications and adulteries whowith soever they shall fornicate:
²⁹But he that shall fornicate with his Mother in Law hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation.

Nope, that's not what the Bible says. So I have my own hunch that Allen has some sort of irrational fear that he will be cuckolded by one of his daughters' future husbands.

Erik said in comment # 7...
Study finds correlation between religion and immoral behavior.

Not surprising and very consistent with many other studies. But no worries, Allen will just ignore it and keep claiming "faith" (as long as it is Christian) is a good force in the world.

Erik said in comment # 7...
Or as William Blake said: "Prisons are built with stones of Law, Brothels with bricks of Religion."

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Erik on You did what?

2010-02-24T12:29:25Z

Study finds correlation between religion and immoral behavior.

Or as William Blake said: "Prisons are built with stones of Law, Brothels with bricks of Religion."

Fixed.

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Erik on You did what?

2010-02-24T12:28:16Z

Study

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Erik on You did what?

2010-02-24T11:51:18Z

Not nearly as bed as the ancestors of Jesus, Judah and Tamar

Also, not sure what this has to do with the guy's politics, unless he's running as a pro-adultery candidate on the sex-with-Mother-in-Law ticket.

Maybe his family is hurt by it, but certainly none of the electorate is.
Wouldn't it be worse if the guy was cheating on his taxes or misleading people through false advertising? Doesn't that show a considered, pre-meditated indifference to one's fellow human beings?

Much more so than a moment of sexual weakness between consenting adults.
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The Last Cainanite on You did what?

2010-02-24T11:19:35Z

Jane, give the guy a break. He was only 19 at the time! If the situations were reversed and it was a 19 year old woman and her father-in-law you and Allen would have said she was a "victim" for sure. But if it's a guy with his MILILF it's his fault entirely and that disqualifies him from public office? Bullshit!
I don't think this should be a big deal at all. It's not like it's incest - they are not blood relatives unless he married his cousin or something.

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Jane on You did what?

2010-02-24T10:44:24Z

Could not vote for him!! He shouldn't even be on the ticket. Even though it was 10 years ago and he has changed his life, doesn't he realize the damage it is going to cause his ex-wife and his child to have this all out in the open again. Does he have that right?
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Jason on You did what?

2010-02-24T10:36:03Z

I appreciate your view on forgiveness, I also believe in giving everyone a second chance. Sometimes people tend to judge others by their own standards. In prison or out here a murderer is considered to be on a higher moral level than a child molester, or a thief over a murderer! I think the only standard is God's standard and we all fall short. But I'm inclined to believe it helps these types of people to sleep better at night as long as there is someone that has done worse things than themselves. Sometimes the most forgiving and loving people I have ever met have been at the bottom of the barrel. Thanks and I love your show and agree with you 99%...95% of the time:) Keep up the good work! >>>>> Read Entire Post

The Last Cainanite on You did what?

2010-02-23T20:16:25Z

Erik is right. This post is useless without pictures. What if she is a MILILF? >>>>> Read Entire Post

Erik on You did what?

2010-02-23T17:48:12Z

Need pics of MIL before rendering my verdict.
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The Last Cainanite on Muslim Self-Profiling

2010-02-23T10:05:47Z

Just like Allen. A day after the non-Muslim terrorist attack he is bitching about .... Muslims! You are like a broken record Allen. >>>>> Read Entire Post

Wulf on Muslim Self-Profiling

2010-02-20T22:13:26Z

Allen,
Great post. I think you created a perfect profile of CHEECH & CHONG in the beginning to catch my attention:

"Would you go into a grocery store seeking a loaf of bread and begin by looking in the frozen food section and then moving on to the wine aisle? Probably not.

Would you go into a grocery store seeking a loaf of bread and search the store by picking random aisles, hoping that you might eventually find bread? Doubtful."

And THEN you hit it hard... Great post... Right & Wrong + LOGIC & REASON = PRICELESS. If anyone hasn't told you recently Allen, KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK, its APPRECIATED...... Read Entire Post

Wulf on Muslim Self-Profiling

2010-02-20T22:12:53Z

Ron Ashton on Muslim Self-Profiling

2010-02-20T21:57:42Z

Wow! I heard you talking about the self profiling. You are so right about that. If they love this country and want to help how amaricans look at their musulims they would only want to help make things easier on everybody. You are awesome! I am going to listen to you all the time. You think the same way I do.

Ron >>>>> Read Entire Post

The Last Cainanite on The ACLU Giveth, the ACLU Taketh Away

2010-02-19T13:17:31Z

I just found this, from yesterday:
FCC Professor Brad Lopez Denies Anti-Gay Remarks

It's a video of a local ABC TV report where Lopez denies that he did anything wrong but in the end they say there are videotaped lectures and copies of the Power Point slides he used. So I guess that means we will find out the truth before long.
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The Last Cainanite on The ACLU Giveth, the ACLU Taketh Away

2010-02-19T13:05:55Z

Garry R. Kennedy said in comment # 4...
Nevertheless, I still think Christians are easier targets for everyone, not just the ACLU, because everyone expects them to turn the other cheek.

I don't think so. The Christians are a target for criticism because they are a dominant religion in the US and because so many US Christians are so adamant about both pushing their beliefs on others and using government to meddle into other people's lives, especially in the bedroom.

Garry R. Kennedy said in comment # 4...
If you would like to know more about Professor Brad Lopez the man then I suggest you read my lastest blog post on him. God bless you and have a nice day.

For one Brad Lopez is not a professor. He is an instructor, someone hired by a college to teach an introductory class. That's a few notches below a professor.
I read your blog. It only confirms what I suspected. This Brad Lopez character is a full-on fundy.
I sure hope Fresno City College do the right thing and not allow him to push his religion in class. If he doesn't want to teach the material he's welcome to teach at a Christian college in the area like Biola, Loma Linda or Asuza Pacific.
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The Last Cainanite on Vince Vaughn

2010-02-19T12:48:53Z

Allen Hunt said in a tweet...
The IRS plane crasher had pregnant nostrils. That is the old Hebrew word for anger. That was one angry dude. Did you read his manifesto?

Plane crasher? Why not call him a terrorist? He committed a very visible, violent attack for a political purpose. This is a textbook example of terrorism. Just because he wasn't a Muslim doesn't not make him a terrorist!

Allen Hunt said in a tweet...
Is it OK to say Happy Ash Wednesday? I actually really like this day.

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Garry R. Kennedy on The ACLU Giveth, the ACLU Taketh Away

2010-02-18T13:16:44Z

Interesting comments. I only wish for what the Lord wills to happen. President Obama is a Chirstian and I think he is concerned about facts. I do suggest that the church give up it's tax-exempt status. I try to read the Bible most days and I have read the whole book, not just certain parts. I stand corrected on the last comment about the ACLU and moslems, I had forgotten about the moslem charter school in Minnesota. Nevertheless, I still think Christians are easier targets for everyone, not just the ACLU, because everyone expects them to turn the other cheek.

If you would like to know more about Professor Brad Lopez the man then I suggest you read my lastest blog post on him. God bless you and have a nice day. >>>>> Read Entire Post

Andrew O'Kelley on AFA Voter Guide Reminds Me Why I Hate Christian Politics

2010-02-17T10:33:58Z

Interesting. I looked at the voter's guide and got a very different feel. I saw no endorsement whatsoever from AFA on the guide. They just presented all the candidates with their feelings towards certain issues that are, amazingly, important to most Americans. Liberals, conservatives, and independents would all benefit from this non-biased voter's guide. It helped me change my vote. Get the chip off your shoulder. I sometimes feel the same way as you about Christian politics, being a believer in Romans 13:1, but c'mon man. This was obviously a non-biased voter's guide. It seems that you just have it out for AFA. >>>>> Read Entire Post

The Last Cainanite on Rachel McAdams

2010-02-17T00:37:57Z

Allen Hunt said in the OP...
So, my bride and I watched Time Traveler's Wife over the weekend. Rachel McAdams was in it, so I figured what the heck. What a bizarre movie.

Just from the title I was tempted to see it. I like science fiction and I like bizarre movies. I was sorely disappointed to hear that it was really a chick flick. You seem to confirm what I heard.
Than again, Rachel McAdams was in the new Sherlock Holmes as Irene Adler and that was a very fun re-imagining of the story. By the way, the storyline revolves around a criminal who wants to take over England by faking his own death and resurrection. Holmes will have none of it and insists on a rational explanation. Too bad there was no Sherlock Holmes in 1st century Jerusalem heh?

The twisted plot meanders so far and then it turns into a gut-wrenching cry-fest. At least for me. I cry a lot, or so my wife tells me!

I don't even know what to make of that revelation except that I admire your wife as a very long-suffering woman. ;)

Allen Hunt said in a tweet...
Snow in Atlanta. How did it ever get in?

Ironically, probably because of global warming. Warmer oceans means more evaporation means more humidity in the atmosphere means more snow when it's cold. And no, global warming does not mean it gets warmer equally everywhere - it just means that average temperatures for the whole Earth (most of which is oceans!) over time go up. To put it in finance terms you might understand better than all this sciency stuff: to say that the stock market is moving up does not mean every stock is moving up and neither does it mean the stock index moves up all the time - you have to look at the running averages to smooth out the short term noise. ... Read Entire Post

Erik on Where The Hell Have You Been?

2010-02-16T10:11:59Z

Bill Davis said in comment # 3...
You've got to be the biggest jerk I have ever heard. You do a lot of damage with you inflammatory garbage. If this country fails it will be because of people like you.

He must mean Allen.
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Bill Davis on Where The Hell Have You Been?

2010-02-16T01:46:34Z

You've got to be the biggest jerk I have ever heard. You do a lot of damage with you inflammatory garbage. If this country fails it will be because of people like you. >>>>> Read Entire Post

The Last Cainanite on The ACLU Giveth, the ACLU Taketh Away

2010-02-15T20:37:32Z

Allen, I have to disagree. The only reason John Adams wanted to honor that high schooler is that she won an award by National Right to Life. I very much doubt he would be pushing for state recognition of a teenager who won an award by NARAL or GLAD or some other organization he disagrees with. Since when are state legislatures supposed to honor high school students who win awards by politically charged groups anyway? Total waste of money!

On the other hand ACLU got it right about this Brad Lopez character.

Allen Hunt said in the OP...
Brad Lopez is one of several Fresno City College instructors who teach Health Science I, which the catalog describes as a survey of "contemporary science concepts and medical information designed to promote health."

Note the catalog description speaks of "contemporary science concepts". Both "contemporary' and "science" are important terms here.

Topics include sexuality, nutrition, substance abuse, physical fitness and heredity. One would reasonably expect to encounter a variety of scientific explanations and discussions in such a setting.

Operative word here being "scientific". Earth to Allen: The Bible is not a science textbook.

Unfortunately for Mr. Lopez, he is also a Christian, a designation which seems to have gotten under the skin of the ACLU and two of Lopez's students. Therefore, the ACLU is calling into question his ability to express his opinions, scientific theories, and interpretations. Were he a mere Marxist at an American college, it is doubtful anyone would have taken notice of his interpretation of scientific data.

Actually if he were a Marxist and used Das Kapital or advocated Lysenkoism (a model of heredity popular in USSR for a time which is contrary to Mendel and Darwinian evolution but compatible with Marxism) when discussing heredity instead of the more usual Mendellian rules as found in the textbook, he would be opposed just as fiercely as Mr. Lopez.

The ACLU of Northern California has written a letter to the school's administration complaining that Lopez quoted the Bible as proof that human life begins at conception and that he characterized homosexuality as a mental illness.

Just aside from the fact that Bible nowhere says that human life begins at conception a religious text is also highly inappropriate here. Should a Muslim instructor be allowed to teach the health class from the Koran?

By the way, you left out the most ridiculous part of Mr. Lorenz' teachings. He reportedly had an assignment where he asked about Jesus' genetic makeup. He also talked about "world ending in fire" when they were discussing global warming. This instructor is out of control person trying to use health class and a captive audience to spread his kooky religious beliefs.

First, such a statement about homosexuality is certainly one of a number of scientific positions regarding the �health� of gay behavior. For example, both the American Psychiatric Association and the American Psychological Association maintained such a position well into the 1970's.

And APA has repudiated that view in the 1970s. It is thus outdated and not "contemporary science". It's like a physics teacher advocating the ether theory of electromagnetism and using the Bible to argue his case, except that we are talking about real human beings here, some of whom are attending Mr. Lopez' class.

It is now a minority opinion but one still held nonetheless by a number of scientists.

For example?

There is no such thing as �unbiased� information when it comes to assessing homosexuality. Sexual behavior is hardly comparable to the law of gravity. All scientists and thinkers interpret the data and emerging research.

But what Lopez does is not to "interpret" any data or research. He already knows the result because he read it in the Bible and will cram it down any captive audience of impressionable freshmen that the hapless college administration allows him to indoctrinate.

Shall Mr. Lopez not offer his own interpretation or should he instead ask what interpretation the ACLU would categorize as �unbiased� and �accurate�?

Quite frankly, he is teaching an introductory health class. There is not much to interpret there. And his behavior is not even subtle but quite obvious religious propaganda and proselytizing that is completely out of place in a health class and is bordering on bizarre at times (makeup of Jesus' DNA)

After all, he is the teacher of the class, and that is what teachers do � share their opinions and interpretations of the data.

Opinions and interpretations have to be held in a scope consistent with the class. This was an introductory health class, not an American Literature class or a senior seminar on the Ethics or some-such.

Lopez told the class that abortions kill more human beings than cancer.

Miscarriages kill more human beings than abortions, if you want to define "human beings" that way. Does that mean God == mass murderer of the "preborn"?

Of course, Mr. Lopez is technically correct although that fact seems not to hold much weight against a tidal wave of political correctness. Again, what might be �accurate and unbiased� information regarding the beginning of human life?

Whatever it is, it isn't the Bible! That should be pretty obvious.

Most scientists (and theologians) agree that human life begins at conception.

Let's leave theologians out of this - this is a health class, not a religion class. You certainly have some evidence for your statement about scientists?
Let me share my thoughts about when life begins. A zygote (fertilized egg) is no doubt alive. But if we look as life qua life, so is the ovum (unfertilized egg). Furthermore, there is a continuity between an ovum and a zygote. In other words, a zygote is not some brand-new thing nor is it newly alive. No, the ovum has been alive for years before and becomes a zygote by virtue of receiving another haploid genome to become diploid. So does that mean human life begins when the ovum is created? Not really. Ova are created by meiosis of a parent cell, also alive. There is simply no place where it can be scientifically said that human life "begins" - we are truly a part of a continuous tree of life that goes back for millions of generations.
More interesting then is when we can speak of a new human person, and it is pretty ridiculous to speak of a single cell (zygote) as a person.

What they dispute is when a human receives a �soul.� But few scientists deviate from the idea of human life's beginning at conception.

Scientifically "soul" is a null-concept and thus irrelevant in health class.

Ms. Mahaffey said she nonetheless stayed in the class and earned an A. Lopez clearly was not inculcating religious belief, or Ms. Mahaffey's disagreements with his positions would surely have prevented her from earning an A in the course.

So he did not punish her for her positions. That of course makes his actions less wrong than if he did punish her but still very wrong nevertheless.
And she still had to write homework on Jesus' genetic makeup. I know I wouldn't be getting an A because my answer would have been "He was diploid. One haploid set from Mary, one haploid set from whichever Roman soldier or local shepherd managed to gain access to Mary's 'sanctum sanctorum' and to knock her up."

And I thought universities were places for the free exchange of ideas and thought.

Obviously universities are not places where "anything goes". You can't teach ether theory in physics class, flat-earth in geography and you damn sure can't use the Bible in health class. It should be obvious.

It is little wonder that American college campuses contain the last vestiges of Marxism in the world.

I have yet to see a story about a college instructor spreading Marxism or using Marxist texts in a health class. But we have that with Christians, even at public universities such as Fresno.

Free speech is refused, free inquiry is denied, and free thinking is squelched, all in the name of political correctness. Bill Ayers would be proud.

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Erik on The ACLU Giveth, the ACLU Taketh Away

2010-02-14T11:54:37Z

Garry R. Kennedy said in comment # 1...
It's only a matter of time before they will come after the Christian church and what can be preached there.

You wish.

Garry R. Kennedy said in comment # 1...
It doesn't matter what the facts may reveal

When have Christians ever been concerned with facts?

Garry R. Kennedy said in comment # 1...
Soon they will come after the churches because they are tax exempt.

Then give up your tax exemption and live in the real world with the rest of us.

Garry R. Kennedy said in comment # 1...
They will claim that the Bible teaches hate speech.

It does. Maybe you should actually read it sometime.

Garry R. Kennedy said in comment # 1...
You notice that you never hear about the ACLU going after any Moslem church or teacher

From the Minneapolis Star Tribune:

The Minnesota chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union says it�s suing a charter school that caters to Muslim students.
The ACLU names Tarek ibn Ziyad Academy, or TiZA, and the Minnesota Department of Education in a lawsuit in federal court that says the charter school is using taxpayer money to illegally promote religion.

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Garry R. Kennedy on The ACLU Giveth, the ACLU Taketh Away

2010-02-14T09:46:28Z

Three cheers for Professor Brad Lopez, and I couldn't agree with you more. The ACLU wants to stop free speech becasue they want to control every aspect of education. People better wake up! It's only a matter of time before they will come after the Christian church and what can be preached there. They claim that because the college receives federal and state money they can decide what can and can't be taught there. It doesn't matter what the facts may reveal. Soon they will come after the churches because they are tax exempt. They will claim that the Bible teaches hate speech. You notice that you never hear about the ACLU going after any Moslem church or teacher. You think maybe cause they are a little afraid of them? >>>>> Read Entire Post

Kjell on NOW's angry reflex

2010-02-13T04:25:24Z

I've been listening to all the talk about the ad and didn't actually see it until Sunday, my exact reaction was THIS!?!?!?!? this was the controversial ad? Shocking, didn't seem like a big deal to me. >>>>> Read Entire Post

sarah on Where The Hell Have You Been?

2010-02-12T15:43:07Z

Andrew! This blog made me smile! Although I had been wondering why you weren't blogging, I am so glad to read that you are living! Funny thing about living is that I have been toying with writing about blog about just that topic but have been too busy to get to it! Maybe I will make the time - anyways, I'm so glad you are flying. I would love to hear more about what you talked to Dick about, I'll have to call you :) >>>>> Read Entire Post

Robert Campbell sr. on Islamic Profiling

2010-02-12T12:54:53Z

ALONG CAME A SPIDER...

The Islāmic prophet Mohammed is said to have had a spider make a web across the mouth of a small cave to hide him from his enemies on one occasion. I believe this same spider has moved into the front door of our White House.

I find that Barack (Barry) Hussein Obama (Soetoro) attended an Islāmic school for 5 years or more in Indonesia or near his home country of Kenya. Who really knows what the truth is behind Obama�s real identity with his place of birth and his associations being hidden from the American people by our own ultra-liberal govt, ultra-liberal courts and ultra-liberal media. When Obama actually moved back to the US after attending Muslim school he registered as being a Muslim within our own schools. Furthermore, I found that within the Islāmic religion Muslims are allowed to lie to subvert and conquer the infidels; this being unlike Judeo-Christianity�.

I believe Islam is a forgery of Judeo-Christianity except for some major differences Mohammed decided to throw in to empower, and enrich himself. It is a fact that Mohammed borrowed from Judeo-Christianity in the making of his Islāmic religion, and by tying it into Ishmael for legitimacy.The rest he made up as he went along to get his empire built. This is how Jihad came into existence. Infidels are to eventually convert or die. Not much love, tolerance, or forgiveness there.

However, in Judeo-Christianity Yahshua died for us all, and we are not required to die or kill for him even though millions were killed for his name sake. Judeo-Christianity is the oldest religion on the planet wherein all others followed and transitioned into what we know of today. The prophets in Judaism foretold the advent of Christianity and are therefore intrinsically tied together�.

I further find that In Islam the twelfth Imam or the Al-Mahdi fits the bill of the Christian anti-Christ described in the book of Revelations with the white horse, miraculous powers and the whole nine yards. Them who refuse to bow down and submit to the anti-Christ system will have their heads cut off or be imprisoned. There are them in Islam who teach their children to cut off heads in a certain way to please their god-Allah. The Christian text does say that the pagan Roman church is involved with this end time scenario as well�.

However, fortune tellers and them who practice witchcraft are forsaken in the Judeo-Christian texts as being false prophets even though false prophets will be right at least part of the time. After all, Lucifer and his collaborators are powerful beings who work through people, too.You can tell a real prophet by what he or she says being 100% true all the time if they are of the real God. The discovery of the bible codes has a lot of people on edge along with the recent scientific findings on the Shroud of Turin, and much more�.

I further found that the prophets of the old and new testaments have had 98% of their prophecy already fulfilled and documented. Many national leaders have or have had their own personal psychics. We have Nostradamus and Edgar Cayce to name a few who have a high percentage rate of accuracy in their predictions, but not 100% never the less�.

Therefore, it is only fair to say that there is a lot of exploitation of Christianity. Most of the Christian churches do not follow scripture or teach the scriptures accurately within the different denominations. However, Judeo-Christians do share binding common-ground; God and his son, and the values and principles inherent in these two very real entities in spite of the corruption and exploitation that may exist within the Churches. This is nothing compared to the global secular �lite who are hell-bent on robbing, enslaving and ruling our entire world�.This is why you should not play follow the leader with anyone. Learn the truth within the texts for yourself for this is what it teaches, and maybe then you will find the real God, and his real son.

Furthermore, modern archaeologists find more evidence practically everyday that validates and supports what is written in the Judeo-Christian texts. It is truly amazing. As for pagan Rome and their churches all I can say is that Lucifer and his fallen angels work in their mysteriously deceptive ways to get people and nations to worship them.

I have found that Babylon is the founder of paganism from which all pagan gods evolved and were handed down throughout the different generations. Even the Vatican and its other Roman churches still have statues of the Roman pagan gods in them. They only renamed the pagan statues after the saints and Mary the mother of Yahshua. All this has been said before and is documented in many different books and booklets, and I assure you it is the last thing from being silly. It is estimated that the corrupt Roman church killed about 100-million people during the dark ages. If this is not the forces of evil working through people and their institutions, what is it then?

Furthermore, no other religion offers forgiveness for sin through grace and faith wherein good works follow as evidence of this transformation of heart and mind. Furthermore, you are not required to die for God or his son to have forgiveness, nor kill others. No other tomb is empty except for one. There is a lot more politically, socially, domestically, rationally, philosophically, scientifically and prophetically found within the Judeo-Christian texts that does not exist in any other religion known to man. All one has to do is actually read it and understand it for themselves and the truths will become self-evident�.

Over the past several years, President Barack Obama has repeatedly claimed that America is not a Christian nation. He asserted that while a U. S. Senator, 1 repeated it as a presidential candidate, 2 and on a recent presidential trip to Turkey announced to the world that Americans �do not consider ourselves a Christian nation.� 3 (He made that announcement in Turkey because he said it was �a location he said he chose to send a clear message.� 4 ) Then preceding a subsequent trip to Egypt, he declared that America was �one of the largest Muslim countries in the world� 5 (even though the federal government�s own statistics show that less than one-percent of Americans are Muslims. 6 (wallbuilders.com).

Obama is not a private citizen and he is a representative of his Muslim religion to which he does in fact have certain obligations. Being in our highest office he can undermine and subvert our policies that effect our overall society and our form of gov�t. Obama is using the secularist agenda to subversively promote his own Islāmic agenda.

Last May, President Obama refused to invite Christian and Jewish leaders to the White House to participate in the National Day of Prayer (as former presidents have done). He did invite Muslim leaders to the White House for a special Muslim Ramadan celebration to commemorate Allah delivering the Koran to his prophet Mohammed. Islam will shine through America's capitol, and proudly and unabashedly they declare, "Our Time Has Come!"

Our Gov�t is not, and has not favored one denomination over another as was the founders real intent, and the majority of Americans support this form of Gov�t because of the values and principles they want their children to inherit to guide their behavior and conscience. The Founders never intended to set up a form of Gov�t that would allow foreign powers, foreign religions, or secular subverters into the auspices of our Gov�t! For anyone to think otherwise must live in a very disturbed world of their own imaginings.

The Founders have taken and established the values and principles from Judeo-Christianity as a standard with which to govern and make our laws. What is so hard to understand about that? Why would our Founders sabotage our form of Gov�t or our national identity by leaving it open to subversion by anyone? This is the heart of moral decay in our country�.

I find that many of the men and women in this country who oppose, and find the very concept, discussion, and practice of secularism, foreign religions, abortion, and homosexuality by them in our secular, corporate, big liberal gov�t, progressive media, our progressively liberal courts, and our secular/alien religious schoolrooms to be forced indoctrination, repulsive and evil�.

Furthermore, we are talking about good, evil, right and wrong conduct and behavior as defined by or based in a Judeo-Christian moral code as established and defined by our Founders whose intent was to carry out this higher moral code to govern our laws, and our society; not a theocracy, secular or religious�.

The silent majority are not the screaming minority who are out attacking people of all faiths in their Churches or in our streets because the people voted against the acceptance of perversion and subversion in our state and national voting.

Furthermore, the tea parties are just the tip of the iceberg, and represent the silent majority in our country who are people from all walks of life and faith finally coming out in large numbers against the robbing of, and the subversion of our country by the radical liberal fringe element minority in our socialist corporate-liberal big gov�t �lite. This monstrosity uses homosexuals, baby killers, and the secular religion proposing freedom from our religion instead of the freedom to practice, and keep our own religion as was the intent of our founders. This being done to create a crack in the foundation of our country to further legitimize their fascist monkey-god religious agenda with the help of their small army of secularly liberal indoctrinated parrots.

A good example of the hit and run parrots lack of comprehensive and feeble attacks against our country and it�s founders exist in their inability to understand the true meaning of words and their true definitions. True Republican Principles= Republic= Republicanism as was created and intended by the vast majority of our founders. These principles were derived from the Judeo-Christian texts as the standard our Founders used to judge inappropriate, deviant, and subversive behavior harmful to the people, their national identity, and the unity of our nation as was clearly stated by all the founders often throughout the majority of their orations and practices�.

So, let�s get real�we can not all have our own govt�s with our own faith and set of principles for governing and law making. Secularism is not a neutral religion not with its own faith in its own set of saturational principles that are in antithesis to many others including our own. This was understood by the majority of Americans in this country at one time whether they were new citizens who met downtown or stayed at home. This being until recent times with the advent of the progressive secular/liberal minority, and other adverse religious minorities attempting to indoctrinate and confuse the American people to over-throw our national identity and form of gov�t. This being done through their subterfuge in conducting a mass domestic foreign invasion of our country, and concentrating our wealth and power into the hands of the few �lite monkey gods and their false prophets�.

The revisionist garbage that our progressively secular, corporate, big liberal gov�t, secular/liberal media, and our progressive secular/foreign religious teachers want the American people to learn, hear and see from them is pure fear tactics and fantasy. This is demonstrated by their deeply indoctrinated parroting of, and their continued attempts to enforce, their detrimentally progressive cause upon humanity. Their ilk are truly the one�s society has to fear because if such a cause were to avail upon humanity the enforced decadence and murder imposed on us by the �lite monkey gods would have no bounds�.

What I have presented to the people is the exact antithesis, grounded in humanitarian principles, of what the progressively radical secular/liberal fringe element minority portent for us all�.

I have found that secularism/liberalism with its bogus saturational ethics only leads people to their ruin through dependency on our morally and financially bankrupt gov�t, its social programs, and on legal or illegal drugs. The corrupting progressive secular/liberal fringe elements within our gov�t and our institutions created the subterfuge, and use it just like many past dictatorships have to control their people. If our economy gets worse or collapses our streets will be full of mindless morons running wild, and nothing or no one is safe�.

I believe, this is why the secularists tend to be gay and baby killers because they can not cope, and lack the mechanisms for coping, with normal relationships under the current system of saturational (situational) ethics being promoted by our corrupting secular corporations, our big liberal gov�t, its secular, and adverse religions within our institutions�.

Therefore, separation of church and state first appears in a private letter that John Adams wrote to his wife which has been taken out of context by them trying to subvert our form of gov�t, religion, way of life and national identity. Adams gave many sermons himself, and he was a biblical scholar as was Ben Franklin who told Thomas Paine he was spitting in the wind with his secular non-sense�.

In closing, I want to further clarify my position on my religion to avoid any mockery or mis-understanding. I believe in El-Yahweh and his son Yahshua who died for our sins to bring us back to our Father/Creator to worship and glorify him.Yahshua will receive his praise and glory from the Father. El-Yahweh is a jealous God, one God, spirit and not man unlike his only begotten son Yahshua. El-Yahweh does not change. I believe in all the commandments (especially the fourth commandment) given to us to by our Creator to live by for this is his mark on his people.

Therefore, it is obvious that I do not fit in with any of the known organized religious institutions. Even if you�re the only one to stand out alone from among the multitude you shall be the only one saved; put your trust in no man lest you be deceived. Words of wisdom to live by. I can think of none better. I do not put my trust, faith or salvation in any man or woman because their hearts are continually evil. We are all sinners, but blessed are those who over-come. We strive for spiritual progress rather than spiritual perfection in this life for this allows for our humanity to shine its brightest�.

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The Last Cainanite on Where The Hell Have You Been?

2010-02-12T12:40:23Z

Andy Borgman said in the OP...
I'll still be writing on here some, but probably not as much as I did in the past. Partially because I have lost some of my zeal and passion for this particular area of my life.

Sorry to hear that. I have enjoyed most of your blogs.

Andy Borgman said in a tweet...

Allen's throwing me and my dating life under the bus AGAIN for the sake of the show. I wonder though if this means I can write-off my dates?

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The Last Cainanite on NOW's angry reflex

2010-02-12T12:13:12Z

Allen Hunt said in the OP...
I enjoyed the Super Bowl even though I wanted Peyton Manning to get another ring. Fun game.

You fail as a prophet then (and as a Catholic you should know better than to bet against the Saints!)

But, in all the hoopla surrounding the Tebow/Focus on the Family ad, I must admit that I thought the ad was a bit ho-hum.

Yeah, that ad was some weak sauce. That makes it all the more deceptive though, as it still was produced, and refers to the website of, one of the most fundamentalist, hateful, radical Christian organizations in the US!

Terry O'Neill of NOW actually said, "I am blown away at the celebration of the violence against women in it. I think CBS should be ashamed of itself." Are you serious? Really? Tim Tebow playing with his mother, Pam, is domestic violence? Does NOW breathe the same oxygen the rest of us do?

Yeah, I am with you on that front - that's a pretty ridiculous objection. Especially since I am pretty sure NOW would support the right of girls to try out and play for their high schools football team (and would probably object if they were tackled in a game, go figure!)
What is objectionable is James Dobson's Focus on the Family using the Tebows to sell their fundamentalist brand of Christianity and CBS allowing it while disallowing non-political ads for web hosting, a Divine Comedy inspired game and for a dating site, as well as rejecting a MoveOn ad in 2004 because it was an "advocacy" ad.
If you don't recall, James Dobson has been, together with Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell and D. James Kennedy, for about 40 years now one of the "4 horsemen" (only 2 horsemen now!) of a very politically active brand of Christian fundamentalism in the US. They, and the organizations they spawned, actively seek to restrict personal liberties of anyone that does not believe as they do.
The ad is also problematic in that it encourages women to carry a very high-risk pregnancy to birth even though it could kill them. Furthermore, many non-elective abortions occur because of debilitating fetal defects such as Anencephaly. FOTF/Tebow ad implies that medical professionals are not to be trusted when fetii have been diagnosed with one of these conditions because baby Tim turned out all right.

1. David Letterman, the sexual workplace predator, getting free ad time from CBS

"Predator"? Seriously? "Predator" implies non-consent. There is no evidence of that whatsoever.

4. Go Daddy's racy (no pun intended) ads which have become boring and predictable

That is because their really racy and unpredictable ads are being censored by CBS so as to not offend the fundies and Helen Lovejoy types - and not just the gay-themed "Lola" ad, they had many other ads banned as well over the years.

There is a bit of a pattern with CBS here this year. They allow an ad by one of the most radical right-wing groups in the country but they reject
- EA for having the tagline "Go to Hell" in their ad for Dante's Inferno.
- Go Daddy for having a gay character in one of their ads.
- Mancrunch.com for having two men kissing in their ad. CBS's excuse that the company did not have the cash does not hold water as they rejected a gay-themed ad by godaddy.com and they most certainly do have the cash.

In other words, they rejected any add that goes against the fragile fundy sensibilities such as mentioning "hell" or featuring gays. But they are perfectly ok with ads by radical fundamentalist groups.

5. Pete Townshend, a former child porn registered sex offender, being paid to perform at the Super Bowl

Well laws against child porn are a bit crazy (even an unintentional download can get you in big trouble) so I am willing to give him a pass on that. If you want to be outraged at Superbowl half-time shows, be outraged over the fact that every single act since the Nipplegate was decades past their prime - The Who, Rolling Stones, Paul McCartney... Prince was the only headliner who was under 50 and he didn't have any big hits since late 80s really.

Somehow, instead NOW prefers to be outraged at the idea of a happy mother celebrating life.

No, this is not about a "happy mother celebrating life". This is about an ad by a radical fundy group whose stated goal is to outlaw all abortions, even medically indicated ones (like Pam Tebow's would have been).

I take some solace from the fact that this will most likely be the closest Tim Tebow will ever come to being in a Superbowl.
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Robert Campbell sr. on Email of the Week: Public Funding of Abortion

2010-02-12T12:01:54Z

THE TRUTH IN DOMESTIC VIOLENCE & THE FAMILY COURT:

Politics is the practical exercise of acting on one's beliefs, convictions, and faith. As a person believes in his heart so is he.... So the uniqueness that is America, is that the people do have the last word.... The progressives have overplayed their hand, they are now exposed and naked before the American public, and found to be wanting....

Apparently, many in our progressively Marxist gov't, and in our secular/alien religious courts are out of touch with many of the men and women in this country. Many of our people oppose, and find the very concept or discussion of secularism, alien religion, abortion and homosexuality by the minority of secular/liberal fringe elements in our gov't, our courts, media, and our schoolrooms to be forced indoctrination, repulsive and evil....

Furthermore, we are talking about good, evil, right and wrong conduct and behavior based in a Judeo-Christian moral code that is established and defined by our Founders whose intent was to implement this higher moral code to govern our laws, and our society; not a theocracy, secular or religious....

Therefore, I advocate equal rights for all men to their children born and unborn because men do not have any equal rights established by the Supreme Court, and the lower courts shove it right up our butts by denying us little or no rights at all. Not one media network or politician will even mention or support equal rights for men because it's just another Marxist, secular/alien religious, big gov't divide and conquer mechanism of theirs being implemented to rob us, kill us, imprison us, and enslave us.

However, I find that men make up a bigger part of our population than do the gays. Since over half the US homes with children in them are headed by single moms in which many are screwed up and screw up their kids and the secular/liberal courts allow it to happen; So men should have equal rights. Men having equal rights does not rewrite God or his principles, and there is nothing decadent or perverse about it either.

So, why should gays get special treatment or preference when they only make up 1% of our population, and anger the rest of society by our corrupted gov't, courts, media and our schools forcing their agenda upon us? Why should women get special treatment or privileges just because they are women and carry our children, and are lead to believe by these subversively radical fringe elements that they have some sort of twisted exclusive rights to our children? Could it be liberal/fascist indoctrination maybe?

Believe it or not, I have seen on many occasions with friends and with different family members where the woman deliberately called the police and accused the man of some kind of wrong doing so that the man would be arrested. This would then allow the woman to have an order of protection placed against the man so he could not return back home without catching more serious charges. However, this usually did happen where there were kids involved leaving everything the man possessed confiscated by the woman. I have had this happen to me before in a past relationship, and now my kids have had to grow up in a broken home leaving me without any say or rights in any event.

I've seen women falling down drunk and stoned to the gills actually fall down and get hurt. As a result, the husbands or boyfriends would call for an ambulance. The cops would show up along with the ambulance workers looking for an arrest and if one is not made at that point they inadvertently help assist the paramedics in taking the highly intoxicated women to the hospital. Once at the hospital, a female domestic violence worker would show and take pictures of any injuries that may exist as result of the women's intoxication, and attempt to talk the highly intoxicated women into pressing charges, and getting an order of protection placed against the men who tried to look-out for them. In many cases the men end up getting it stuck to them by these gov't parasites....

I further found that women and children are more targeted by, and susceptible to, our progressively Marxist, big gov't, secular/liberal, indoctrination mechanism that is at work within our institutions. Thus, making our women and children more dependent on, and more prone to using, such divisive gov't mechanisms to get what they want. The women and a large number of the children in these instances came to believe it was morally acceptable thinking and behavior in the sacrificing of the family relationships for more money, to screw around, to excessively party, to practice their addictions and immorality alone or with their secularly indoctrinated liberal friends. Men are more reluctant to take such actions against women and children in spite of the indoctrinating influences I describe here....

Once, while I was in jail for the same crap I describe here, I met many other men who were in the same boat. So, I was not alone. I further found upon my release that there are thousands of means groups popping up all over the country as a result of these injustices. I do not have any stats as to how many men there are who this has happened to. However, I'm sure the stats would be very high if they could be gotten at all since these incidents are usually reported and recorded on behalf of the women by the arresting officers who make up the arrest reports and charges. All this usually ends up costing the man a small fortune in fines, court costs, jail time and so much more. The gov't agencies involved in this whole process make a fortune, and build their careers off of these events....

Therefore, I do realize that men have the same ability to use these same divisive governmental mechanisms against women to keep our children, and material wealth from our women. However, as I originally said, men are more reluctance to take these avenues against a child or a woman. As for the reason behind this reluctance I will leave that for you to decide....

I will give you a personal example of the Fascist, secular/alien religious, forced indoctrination taking place in our progressively liberal Family Courts:

I went to family court today for about the hundredth time for my two youngest kids one is 12yrs. old, and the other just turned 15yrs. old. The mother is charged with neglecting their education and endangering their wellbeing. The mother and her friends are all on SSI, take mental drugs, take prescription narcotic drugs, smoke dope, sell dope, drink and have been guests in the nut-hut.

Over the last several years there has been suicide, attempted suicide in the home, children held back a couple of years in school, and child molesting resulting in a short prison sentence for one of the mothers family members. Both of my children got diagnosed with some crappy diagnosis and were placed on mental drugs, and SSI. Now, they smoke dope, lie, cheat, steal, lazy, miss a lot of school, don't want to do their school work, and the 15yr. old was recently a guest of the nut-hut because his school counselor sent him there after he got kicked off the football team for fighting.

Many in our community including myself and my family find the actions of these people who work for CPS (child protection service) and within our family court to be very disturbing to say the least. The fact that they refuse to protect my kids by not pulling them out of their dysfunctional home and placing them with me, my parents or into foster care. The biased and sexist judge told me and my mother to leave her court room under the threat of arrest when we raised objections to the abuses my kids were being subjected to, and to all my petitions being off-handedly dismissed allowing the abuses to continue by leaving the children in the home with the mother....

However, I left the court building today washing my hands of the whole matter without going in front of the sexist and biased judge who promotes her creation of big brother/big sister programs that allows gov't workers to make a living off these programs by becoming the parent and baby sitter to the mother and my children. No matter what the mother, her family, her friends, or the kids do, or how screwed up they all become their court programs keep them all in the same home together, and then tell me and my lawyer I am no longer needed. If the shoe was on the other foot these same entities would of crucified me, and took my children from me....

Therefore, this is the future for my kids: Dependency on big gov't and drugs justified through the SSI program that's turning them into mindless morons incapable of doing anything productive. Not to mention the loss of their rights to bare arms or work in many areas of our work force due to their mental diagnosis. My kids have a career in SSI gathering, playing video games, and getting high with their mother's moronic friends. This is the hot new meal ticket here in NY for millions, and even the immigrants are cashing in on this, too!

It is all very heartbreaking. I hope voters wake up and start voting (if voting isn't fraudulent) all these progressively radical, alien (the subversive minority who are foreign and antithetical to our form of gov't, religion, and culture) fringe elements out of office and out of our country. Did anyone of you ever stop for a moment and consider themselves to be a part of the cause for the continued political and social injustices being perpetuated upon us; the American people?

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The Last Cainanite on A Letter to Scott Roeder

2010-02-05T10:19:35Z

Quoted from The Wichita Eagle

The woman who shot and wounded Dr. George Tiller in 1993 has warned that abortion providers will "continue to be stopped," despite a Kansas jury's first-degree murder conviction of the doctor's confessed killer.
Shelley Shannon, who is serving time in Minnesota for a series of clinic arsons, sent the message through the prison e-mail system's Web page to anti-abortion activist Dave Leach in Des Moines, Iowa.
[...]
"Abortionists are killed because they are serial murderers of innocent children who must be stopped, and they will continue to be stopped, even though Scott didn't get a fair trial," she wrote. "May God bless Scott for his faithfulness and brave actions and stand."
Roeder has also alluded there would be more violence against abortion providers.
"I know there are many other similar events planned around the country as long as abortion remains legal," he told the AP just days after his arrest.

Woman who shot George Tiller in 1993 issues warning of violence

This is the Christian terrorist equivalent of a Bin Laden tape.

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zeitgeist2012 on Email of the Week: Public Funding of Abortion

2010-02-04T08:00:16Z

The new age Spartans? or The new global Babylon?
Posted by: zeitgeist2012 on February 4, 2010 at 4:09AM MT

If Obama is a Christian then Martin Luther King is a Muslim...and Rev. Wright is really Malcolm X....

I really know no other way to deal with common propaganda other than to submit the long articles of our founders declarations to the contrary. I'm against alien forces of religion whether secular or otherwise who have infiltrated our gov't and institutions intent on destroying us and our form of gov't from within. I do believe we are on the road to one world ruling class elitism better known as tyranny, and I've tried my best to demonstrate the deceptive intricacy of their subterfuge. The new age Spartans or the new global Babylon?

Morality or moral codes differ in secularism and other religions around the world. Just because a person says they believe in a God it does not mean it is the same God or set of ethics they are admitting to. So, you can see the fine edge that our Founders were balancing on in their efforts to establish, and protect our new unique form of Republican gov't from the subversive and the undermining efforts of other existing secular/religious entities that mankind has fought over and been oppressed by since the beginning of civilization.

Over the past several years, President Barack Obama has repeatedly claimed that America is not a Christian nation. He asserted that while a U. S. Senator, 1 repeated it as a presidential candidate, 2 and on a recent presidential trip to Turkey announced to the world that Americans �do not consider ourselves a Christian nation.� 3 (He made that announcement in Turkey because he said it was �a location he said he chose to send a clear message.� 4 ) Then preceding a subsequent trip to Egypt, he declared that America was �one of the largest Muslim countries in the world� 5 (even though the federal government�s own statistics show that less than one-percent of Americans are Muslims. 6 (wallbuilders.com).

Barack (Barry) Obama (Soetoro) is not a private citizen and he is a representative of his Muslim religion to which he does in fact have certain obligations. Furthermore, it is customary for a convert to Islam to change their name to reflect their conversion to the faith. However, I do not in any way believe it to be prejudiced or discriminatory to protect our form of Republican gov't, our way of life, or our national identity from alien subversives or your enemies. With the spider being in our high office he can hide his Islamic agenda behind the progressive secular agenda currently at work within our Republican gov't and our institutions, and therefore affect policies towards our allies in Israel and England,etc. Obama can also affect changes in immigration, schooling, and so many other areas to allow further and easier access to our country and our institutions by our avowed enemies. This is nothing to joke about. It is all or nothing, and it is happening whether the American people recognize it or not. It does not matter to our enemies if they subvert us from within...to them its all the same.....

Christianity . . . introduce[ed] a better and more enlightened sense of right and justice. . . . It taught the duty of benevolence to strangers. 23 JAMES KENT, �FATHER OF AMERICAN JURISPRUDENCE�

The Christian philosophy, in its tenderness for human infirmities, strongly inculcates principles of . . . benevolence. 24 RICHARD HENRY LEE, SIGNER OF THE DECLARATION, FRAMER OF THE BILL OF RIGHTS.

Significantly, nations that are primarily secular in their orientation (or those predominated by non-Judeo-Christian religions such as Islam, Hinduism, Zoroastrianism, Buddhism, Shinto, Confucianism, Jainism, Taoism, Sikhism, Bah��, Diasporic, Juche, etc.) rarely become involved in benevolent endeavors, and certainly are not aggressive in organizing humanitarian relief. In fact, when the massive tsunami devastated Muslim Indonesia in 2004, other Muslim nations did little to assist a nation of their own faith, yet America � even though considered by Indonesia�s (where Obama attended a School of Islam) dominant religion to be the �Great Satan� � was quickly on the scene, providing assistance in money, supplies, labor, and technology.

The benevolence that characterizes America � the compassion and humanitarianism that we have inculcated into our culture � is the unique product of the Bible; and non- and even anti-religious Americans have been trained in Biblical benevolence as characteristic of our culture (even if they do not recognize the source of that principle!).

As Noah Webster explained:

The ecclesiastical establishments of Europe which serve to support tyrannical governments are not the Christian religion but abuses and corruptions of it. 23

Daniel Webster similarly explained that American Christianity was:

Christianity to which the sword and the fagot [burning stake or hot branding iron] are unknown � general tolerant Christianity is the law of the land! 24

Adams declared:

The policy of Christendom has made cowards of all their sailors before the standard of Mahomet. It would be heroical and glorious in us to restore courage to ours. 25

Furthermore, it was Adams who declared:

The general principles on which the fathers achieved independence were. . . . the general principles of Christianity. . . .

�Father of American Jurisprudence.� Justice Story openly declared:

One of the beautiful boasts of our municipal jurisprudence is that Christianity is a part of the Common Law. . . . There never has been a period in which the Common Law did not recognize Christianity as lying at its foundations. . . . I verily believe Christianity necessary to the support of civil society. 32
His conclusion about America and Christianity was straightforward:

In [our] republic, there would seem to be a peculiar propriety in viewing the Christian religion as the great basis on which it must rest for its support and permanence. 33
Justice John McLean (1785-1861) was appointed to the Court by President Andrew Jackson. McLean served in the U. S. Congress, as a judge on the Ohio Supreme Court, and then held cabinet positions under two U. S. Presidents. His view on the importance of Christianity to American government and its institutions was unambiguous:

For many years, my hope for the perpetuity of our institutions has rested upon Bible morality and the general dissemination of Christian principles. This is an element which did not exist in the ancient republics. It is a basis on which free governments may be maintained through all time. . . . Free government is not a self-moving machine. . . . Our mission of freedom is not carried out by brute force, by canon law, or any other law except the moral law and those Christian principles which are found in the Scriptures. 34

They can run but they can't hide!!!!

I doubt they could ever live up to their pretentious belief in our God or to the founding principles within our constitution....

Well, Mr. Spider, take your alien religious, secular/liberal subversiveness and try your rhetoric in Russia, China or your home country of Kenya. See if they will give up their form of gov't, national identity, and their form of religion to a foreign usurper. I think you know where you will end up....

There are different factions fighting for dominance within Islam. However, these warring factions will unite against the infidel in a heart beat. The religion of Islam governed by the Quran, Hadith, and the five pillars of Islam dictate Muslim unity and jihad against the infidel which as a Muslim you are to lie or do whatever it takes to subvert, convert, or eventually kill the infidel. Your reward is seven under aged virgins and a seat close to Allah....

In the past I took the time to read the Quran, the Hadith, and I spoke with several members belonging to different Islamic factions. I found that they share the same common denominator when it comes to the infidel and members who turn their backs on Islamic faith. They are dead serious about these two issues. Much more serious than the secular/liberally indoctrinated, and fallen Christians that exist in our country today; this is very sad....

Our Founders state clearly in documents I've submitted here that our form of Republican gov't is based on a Judeo-Christian code of morality, and was not intended to be subverted or undermined or all would be lost to the corrupt, subversive and oppressive alien institutions that exist in other countries. This is why our Founders required a person(s) to announce a belief in (our) God when taking the oath of office for all positions within our Republican gov't, and to possess Godly Christian principles to guide their character in their governing and law making.

A few of the alien and progressively radical, secular/liberal, US supreme court judges have been trying to do away with this rite of passage to public office which would allow subversive elements easier access to the auspices of our gov't and our institutions. This should scare the crap out of all true Americans! Really!

Furthermore, A person or an entity is not subversive unless they attempt to subvert something or someone. Our Founders did not intend that freedom of religion be used by people of other religion whether secular or otherwise had the freedom to subvert our form Republican gov't, our religion, and our culture. People of alien religions were free to practice their faith as long as they did not impose it on us in an attempt to subvert our own and compromise civic order and rest, and much more. This is only common sense.

Our Gov�t is not, and has not favored one denomination over another as was the Founders real intent in freedom of religion, and the majority of Americans support this form of Gov�t because of the values and principles they want their children to inherit to guide their behavior and conscience. The Founders never intended to set up a form of gov�t that would allow foreign powers, foreign religions, or secular subverters into the auspices of our Gov�t! For anyone to think otherwise must live in a very disturbed world of their own imaginings. It Takes a lot of faith to believe in your secular religion with its self destructive situational ethics or principles. I'm sure your monkey gods have a wonderful plan of salvation for you....

Situational (saturational) ethics are principles developed by the alien secularist/religious progressives to redefine right, wrong, good and evil from one moment to the next. The end justifies the means. If it feels good -do it. It's ok to kill as long as there are no consequences, after all, there is no God. I am the only true Authority....

I believe, this is why the secularists tend to be gay and baby killers because they can not cope, and lack the mechanisms for coping, with normal relationships under the current system of saturational ethics being promoted by our corrupting secular corporations, our liberal big gov�t, its alien secular/religious subversives within our institutions�.

The progressive freedom is alien secular/religious decadence, and perversion based in the progressively radical minorities saturational ethics that allows them to make up rules as they go along and then enforce them on everyone else through subterfuge.

The Founders made it clear that no denomination was to dominate the offices of gov't, and that was the wall intended to avoid a secular/religious theocracy or tyranny. The Founders also made it clear that within the universal moral codes contained within the Judeo-Christian texts is what our Republican gov't and laws are founded on. They put up this wall to prevent the secular and other alien religious entities from high-jacking our form of gov't and our national identity.

Unfortunately, subversive elements have infiltrated our gov't and are going all out to subvert our country. This is why we are having these conversations over the terrible state of affairs we are all now contending with in our country.

In case you have not noticed, the crusades never ended that is why the world is still at war, only most people here don't know it yet. A lot people in the US have been mentally and spiritually put to sleep by our secular/liberal machine that is indoctrinating us, robbing us and enslaving us. The sleeping giant is waking up! Subversives beware!

The alien subversive miscreants in our gov't have become nothing more than petty drug dealers who are giving out free stuff to get ya hooked and dependent them before they rob ya, enslave ya, and kill ya!

After America was conquered and founded by many people from different cultures who united together to form one national identity or culture as defined by our Founders and the founding documents they composed making us unique as Americans. We are not a dictatorship though we do have a unique foundation for government and law making that transcends all others in the opinion of our Founders and the majority of true Americans.

All existing countries were conquered at one time or another yet it does not mean they will give up what has been established without a fight. Only in America where progressive radical fringe elements have been able to infiltrate our gov't and institutions, and thereby convinced some of the mindless indoctrinated masses through subterfuge to give up their wealth, form of gov't, religion and national identity.

Different cultures make up one people, one nation, and one national identity.

We can not all have our own gov't with our own set of principles with which to govern everyone else. That would be insane! I believe this is what our country is going through...mass insanity!

The Founders have taken and established the values and principles from Judeo-Christianity as a standard with which to govern and make our laws. What is so hard to understand about that? Why would our Founders sabotage our form of Gov�t or our national identity by leaving it open to subversion by anyone? This is the heart of moral decay in our country�.

I find that many of the men and women in this country oppose the very concept, discussion, and practice of secularism, foreign religions, abortion, and homosexuality within our corporate-big gov�t, our progressively secular/liberal courts, our alien secular/religious schoolrooms. The American people find such subterfuge to be forced subversive indoctrination, repulsive and evil�.

Furthermore, we are talking about good, evil, right and wrong conduct and behavior as defined by or based in a Judeo-Christian moral code as established and defined by our Founders (not the one or two contradictory oddballs whom the subversive elements within our society like to quote from as being superior to the majority) whose intent was to carry out this higher moral code to govern our laws, and our society; not a theocracy, secular or religious�.

The silent majority are not the screaming minority who are out attacking people of all faiths in their Churches or in our streets because the people voted against the acceptance of perversion and subversion in our state and national voting.

I find that, the tea parties are just the tip of the iceberg, and represent the silent majority in our country who are people from all walks of life and faith finally coming out in large numbers against the robbing of, and the subversion of our country by the radical liberal fringe element minority in our fascist corporate-liberal big gov�t �lite. This monstrosity uses homosexuality, baby killers, and alien secular- religions who propose freedom from our religion instead of the freedom to practice, and keep our own religion as was the intent of our Founders. This being done to create a crack in the foundation of our country to further legitimize their socialist/fascist monkey-god religious agenda with the help of their small army of secularly liberal indoctrinated parrots.

A good example of the hit and run tactics of the secular/ liberal parrots exists in their lack of comprehension demonstrated by their feeble attacks against our country and our Founders, and by their inability to understand the true meaning and definitions of common English words. True Republican Principles= Republic= Republicanism as was created and intended by the vast majority of our Founders. Republican principles were derived from the Judeo-Christian texts as the standard our Founders used to judge inappropriate, deviant, and subversive behavior harmful to the good of our people, our civil society, our national identity, and the unity of our nation as was clearly stated by all the Founders often throughout the majority of their orations, practices, and law making�.

America�s Framers wisely recognized and heartily endorsed the influence of those teachings on the civil arena � especially on the formation of America�s unique republican (i.e., elective ) form of government:

The Bible. . . . [i]s the most republican book in the world. 13 JOHN ADAMS, SIGNER OF THE DECLARATION, FRAMER OF THE BILL OF RIGHTS, U. S. PRESIDENT

I have always considered Christianity as the strong ground of republicanism. . . . It is only necessary for republicanism to ally itself to the Christian religion to overturn all the corrupted political . . . institutions in the world. 14 BENJAMIN RUSH, SIGNER OF THE DECLARATION, RATIFIER OF THE U. S. CONSTITUTION

[T]he genuine source of correct republican principles is the Bible, particularly the New Testament or the Christian religion. . . . and to this we owe our free constitutions of government. 15 NOAH WEBSTER, REVOLUTIONARY SOLDIER, LEGISLATOR, JUDGE

They . . . who are decrying the Christian religion . . . are undermining . . . the best security for the duration of free governments. 16 CHARLES CARROLL, SIGNER OF THE DECLARATION, FRAMER OF THE BILL OF RIGHTS

[T]o the free and universal reading of the Bible . . . men were much indebted for right views of civil liberty. 17 DANIEL WEBSTER, �DEFENDER OF THE CONSTITUTION�

Scores of other Framers, statesmen, and courts made similarly succinct declarations about how the Judeo-Christian Scriptures not only shaped republicanism 18 but also many other unique aspects of our civil culture.

So, let�s get real�we can not all have our own govt�s with our own faith and set of principles for governing and law making. Secularism is not a neutral religion not with its own faith in its own set of saturational/situational principles that are antithesis to many others including our own. This was understood by the majority of Americans in this country at one time whether they were new citizens who met downtown or stayed at home. This being until recent times with the advent of the progressive secular/liberal subversives infiltrating our gov't and our institutions along with other adverse alien religious minorities. These alien entities are hell bent on indoctrinating and confusing the American people to over-throw our national identity and our form of Republican gov�t. This being accomplished through their subterfuge to further justify their conducting of a mass domestic foreign invasion of our country, unconstitutional trade treaties and policies meant to concentrate our wealth and power into the hands of the few �lite monkey gods and their false prophets�.

The revisionist garbage the fascist corporate-liberal big gov�t, corporate liberal media, and our progressively secular teachers want the American people to learn, think, hear and see is rooted in subterfuge; fear tactics and fantasy that should never be allowed to become reality here in the USA. This demonstrates by their deeply progressive and indoctrinated parroting in their continued efforts to enforce their detrimental progressive agenda upon humanity. Their ilk are truly the ones society has to fear because if such a cause were to prevail upon humanity the enforced decadence and murder imposed on us by the �lite monkey gods would have no bounds�.

What I have presented to the people is the exact antithesis, grounded in humanitarian principles, of what the progressively radical secular/liberal fringe element minority portent for us all�.

I have found that secular liberalism with its bogus saturational ethics only leads all people to their eventual ruin through dependency on our morally and financially bankrupt corporate/gov�t, its social programs, and on their legal or illegal drugs. The corrupting progressive secular/liberal fringe elements within our gov�t and our institutions created the subterfuge bent on our destruction, and use it just like many past dictatorships have to control their people. If our economy gets worse or collapses our streets will be full of mindless morons running wild, and nothing or no one is safe�.

Adams gave many sermons himself, and he was a biblical scholar as was Ben Franklin who told Thomas Paine he was spitting in the wind with his secular non-sense�.

The rules, and principles that socialist/fascist subversives are trying to get us to parrot and promote amongst ourselves through their progressive subterfuge is alien secular/religious, Marxist/Fascist non-sense and psychobable. Exercises in redundant mental masterbation.

If you studied history correctly you will find that it was decadence, immorality, perversion, murder, and subversives from within that destroyed many if not all of the kingdoms and empires of old, and it looks like it will be our undoing as well. This is why our Founders chose the moral codes from the Judeo-Christianity texts to govern us and our laws. The Founders knew that the Judeo-Christian moral code unified our people under a common cause. It also provided a foundation in which gov't and society can strive together towards moral and spiritual progress for the good of our nation and of humanity without regressing to secular or religious theocratic tyranny and destroying ourselves!

However, modern abortion and infanticide medications are being forced upon the public, and into places of employment regardless of a persons faith whether it is religious or secular in nature. This constitutes a whole different ball game.

Furthermore, the majority of the people in this country do not condone our govt's enforcement and promotion of the killing of our unborn children while in the womb; thus turning our young girls and women into baby killers. The American people do not condone the teaching that sexual perversion or immorality is a natural or inalienable right or a mistake of our God. Though such subversive and immoral propositions should not exist in the first place atleast put it to the vote and give the people voice in such matters, and though woman are of larger numbers the true giver of life might still prevail upon us. Majority Rule! Or charge the subversive miscreants responsible for such treachery with treason as is proper for them who promote national infanticide, sexual immorality, and subversion of our God and country....

What I have presented to the people is the exact antithesis, grounded in humanitarian principles, of what the alien secular/religious ilk portent for us all....

I don't think that a lot of people really know what ethics or principles are and the true implications and impact they have in our gov't and within our lives. If they did they would not say or do some of the things they do.

History has shown that where the gov't leads the people will follow until the gov't becomes so powerful and oppressive that the people revolt out of desperation or die trying. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. This is when a gov't gains absolute control over their people, and their resources like has happened in so many countries around our world. It's very heartbreaking not to be able to help these people in their gov't inflicted anguish and bondage. I just hope the American people smarten up before us and our children end up in the same circumstances....

So, whose set of principles/ethics or moral code do you want our country to use for governing, law making, business affairs, domestic affairs, foreign affairs, religious affairs, or crime and punisment? Should it be put to the vote and let the cards fall where they may after our progressive secular/liberal corporate/gov't has flooded our communities with legal and illegal aliens?

If your having trouble trying to figure this one out , well, here are some helpful suggestions:

Secular Humanists, Wiccans, Satanists, Muslims, Hindus, Buddists, Taoism, Vodon, Little Green Menism, Atheists, Agnostics, etc.... Beam me up Scotty...there's no intelligent life down here!

Christian denominations do not qualify as alien religions here in the US. They are all a part of the founders and our foundation constituting our national identity, form of gov't and law making. The moral codes our founders barrowed from the Judeo-Christian texts is the glue that unites all our people as one though we may have come from differnt cultures.

Furthermore, aliens who enter this country are to assimilate into our culture, way of life, and national identity as productive US citizens. If jerk-offs get into our gov't and try to dissolve our binding glue then the resulting unleashed social and political insanity will be our end....

Only in America where the progressive radical, secular/liberal, alien religious, fringe elements have infiltrate our gov't and institutions, and thereby convince some of our mindless indoctinated masses through subterfuge to give up their wealth, liberties, form of gov't, religion and national identity.

Here is the new form of gov't and change that many of your ilk are helping to bring down on us all here in the USSA.... Reality Check:

Fascism is a reaction against socialism, in addition to being corporatist in nature (socialism is anti-corporatist) and protecting the "sanctity" of private property (socialism is about collectivism, not separate, private property.) Part of the confusion has its roots in Adolf Hitler's ability to use words to sway and control the masses. He used the word "Socialist" to draw people who continued to adhere to socialism, even though the nature of Hitler's movement was not socialist at all, with its loyalty to industry (budding corporations) and protection of private property from those less fortunate (definitely not redistribution of wealth.)

The so-called redistribution of wealth currently taking place in our country is a lie and an international pondsy scheme to the extent that the money that is actually being redistributed is deficit funds, money being printed up and charged to us and our unborn children which once spent ends up in the off-shore bank accounts of the top 1-2% of our population who are called the corporate/gov't elite.

Our gov't only rakes in $2.2-trillion a year in taxes and spends four or five times that amount, and I have heard it said to be even much higher than that from different sources like Lou Dobbs and Gov. Tim Pawlenty, ect. Eventually this bubble will burst, and where will all of them end up who were dependent on the gov't/tax-payer payroll?

Furthermore, It would probably not make a whole lot of difference either way at this point in our country's history if the legal/illegal aliens were here or not with the current job situation being what it is for everyone. However, as to the social costs of legal/illegal aliens on all levels, as I point out in `Obama's War & SSI SubCulture', it would save the present and future tax-payer trillions of dollars if they were sent back. It is said that the cost for supporting illegals alone on our social programs here in the US is somewhere in the neighborhood of $2.6-trillion a year, and another $1.5-billion a year to house them in our prisons. Talk about culture shock and subversion. I believe these stats are largely underestimated as is everything of real value to the American people.

Hell, you can go to California and can get yourself an IOU for a taco since 40% of the school kids are Mexican immigrants who have helped to bankrupt the whole state and their social programs. Pretty soon you can get an IOU here in NY for rice and beans since our communities, and state are being bankrupted by a mass influx of Puerto Ricans....

I will not rule nor be ruled. I will neither be master nor slave." fascism n. [Italian fascismo < fascio, political group < L fascis: see fasces] 1. the doctrines, methods or movement of the Fascisti 2. a system of gov't characterized by rigid 1-party dictatorship, forcible suppression of opposition, private economic enterprise under centralized gov'tal control, belligerent nationalism, racism, & militarism, etc.: first instituted in Italy in 1922 3. a) a political movement based on such policies b) fascist behavior see also Nazi fasces n. pl. [L pl of fascis, a bundle, [bleep]ot, packet < OE base *bhasko-, bundle, whence MIr basc, neck-band] a bundle of rods bound about an ax with projecting blade, carried before ancient Roman magistrates as a symbol of authority: later the symbol of Italian fascism { for an illustration see the latest edition of Freedom Network News from ISIL, _Ain't Nobody's Business If You Do_ by Peter McWilliams, the walls of the US House Chamber, or the reverse side of a pre-1964 dime, lawyer Rex Curry also has some materials and images }

Corporations are business entities or enterprises where it is supposedly owned by many stock holders (Ralf Nader said only 3% of all stock is owned by 80% of our population) and no individual can be held responsible or accountable if it goes bust. This is accomplished by the private assets of the actual individuals who are running the corporation being kept seperate or disconnected from the corporate assets; if any still exist on its books when it goes bust. This is how corporate execs get away with tucking trillions of our dollars away into off-shore bank accounts....

Therefore, with the fascist ruling of our supreme court giving real life individual status to corporations, I find it to be inherently rediculous and a blatently subersive mockery of our Democratic Republic, of our founding principles, and of our founding documents protecting us from the corruption of corporate/gov't or any other subversive entities. The next thing you know, these radical, liberal, fascist, progressively secular monkey-god judges will allow a corporation to run for public office if it was said to be born in our country. Then again, what difference would there actually be anyway?

This preservation of innocent life was viewed by our Founding Fathers as one of the chief purposes of civil government. As Thomas Jefferson explained, �the care of human life. . .is the fist and only legitimate object of good government.� And the Declaration of Independence similarly declared: �We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men . . .are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life. . . .[And] that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men.�

Consequently, the Founders established numerous laws to protect innocent life � laws prohibiting murder, suicide (which the Founders termed �self-murder�), assisted suicide, abortion, and infanticide. Yet, in protecting life, the Founders understood that respect for innocent life would dwindle if the influence of religion were reduced in the nation. As President George Washington warned: �Where is the security . . . for life if the sense of religious obligation desert?�

Thomas Paines attack against Christianity and religion with his manifesto `Age of Reason' and the majority of our Founders similar responses:

Paine later published his Age of Reason, which infuriated many of the Founding Fathers. John Adams wrote, �The Christian religion is, above all the religions that ever prevailed or existed in ancient or modern times, the religion of wisdom, virtue, equity and humanity, let the Blackguard [scoundrel, rogue] Paine say what he will.� 2 Samuel Adams wrote Paine a stiff rebuke, telling him, �[W]hen I heard you had turned your mind to a defence of infidelity, I felt myself much astonished and more grieved that you had attempted a measure so injurious to the feelings and so repugnant to the true interest of so great a part of the citizens of the United States.� 3

Earlier courts long understood Jefferson's intent. In fact, when Jefferson's letter was invoked by the Supreme Court (only twice prior to the 1947 Everson case � the Reynolds v. United States case in 1878), unlike today's Courts which publish only his eight-word separation phrase, that earlier Court published Jefferson's entire letter and then concluded:

Coming as this does from an acknowledged leader of the advocates of the measure, it [Jefferson's letter] may be accepted almost as an authoritative declaration of the scope and effect of the Amendment thus secured. Congress was deprived of all legislative power over mere [religious] opinion, but was left free to reach actions which were in violation of social duties or subversive of good order. (emphasis added) [12]

That Court then succinctly summarized Jefferson's intent for "separation of church and state":

[T]he rightful purposes of civil government are for its officers to interfere when principles break out into overt acts against peace and good order. In th[is] . . . is found the true distinction between what properly belongs to the church and what to the State. [13]

With this even the Baptists had agreed; for while wanting to see the government prohibited from interfering with or limiting religious activities, they also had declared it a legitimate function of government "to punish the man who works ill to his neighbor."

That Court, therefore, and others (for example, Commonwealth v. Nesbit and Lindenmuller v. The People), identified actions into which � if perpetrated in the name of religion � the government did have legitimate reason to intrude. Those activities included human sacrifice, polygamy, bigamy, concubinage, incest, infanticide, parricide, advocation and promotion of immorality, etc.

Such acts, even if perpetrated in the name of religion, would be stopped by the government since, as the Court had explained, they were "subversive of good order" and were "overt acts against peace." However, the government was never to interfere with traditional religious practices outlined in "the Books of the Law and the Gospel" � whether public prayer, the use of the Scriptures, public acknowledgements of God, etc.

Whereas in 1789, Congress, in the midst of framing the Bill of Rights and the First Amendment, passed the first Federal law touching education, declaring that `Religion, morality, and knowledge, being necessary to good government and the happiness of mankind, schools and the means of education shall forever be encouraged';

I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties. I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection and blessing of the common Father and Creator of man, and tender you for yourselves and your religious association assurances of my high respect and esteem. [9]

Jefferson's reference to "natural rights" invoked an important legal phrase which was part of the rhetoric of that day and which reaffirmed his belief that religious liberties were inalienable rights. While the phrase "natural rights" communicated much to people then, to most citizens today those words mean little.

By definition, "natural rights" included "that which the Books of the Law and the Gospel do contain." [10] That is, "natural rights" incorporated what God Himself had guaranteed to man in the Scriptures.

The secular subversive judges, and like politicians who in their treasonable efforts to pass off their secular religion as a natural existing mechanism for rule of law intended by our Founders, and enforced upon the citizens of our great nation, attending to such matters in the cases submitted violated our founding laws, and their position of office by contending with the subversive un-natural, un-Godly and evil propositions of infanticide-abortion, immorality-sexual perversion, and the immoral subversion of our God and country within our high courts, our gov't auspices, our schoolrooms, and should therefore be charged with high treason and shot!

It is obvious that alien miscreant judges and politicians within our courts and gov't did violate our foundational laws as were laid down by our Founders outlining the courts civic and social duties to enforce action against them who violate the natural-Godly moral good of the people. Such violations are clearly defined by our Founders and their establishment of law. Like I have previously stated that the alien subversive secular monkey-god usurpers have infiltrated our gov't, courts, and institutions. The American people are outraged and justly so, and demand accountability for their attack against our Democratic Republic and our citizens through subversion, subterfuge, perversion, and corruption that has reeked political and social havoc, all manners of vice, robbery, and murder upon our nation and its citizens....

Furthermore, the miscreant, and alien judges and the like politician who have infiltrated our high offices and who are now deliberately inflicting all manner of ill and harm against our citizens by denying the inalienable rights of all men to their children by the subversive, and divisive unmitigated empowerment of our young girls and woman to commit infanticide, and by the exclusionary rights of woman to the born children through the deliberate subterfuge of our founding principles held within our constitution, constitutes high crime-treason;

Furthermore, for any person(s) found within our gov't auspices to deliberately and knowing make treaties or policies of trade or otherwise while in collusion that did in fact endanger the security and sovereignty of the nation, and further being made in direct conflict to the interests, and well being of the American people, and did in fact inflict injury and harm by said miscreants works of treachery, constitutes high crime-treason;

Therefore, as an American citizen, I do lodge this legal formal complaint against the miscreants guilty of the aforesaid actions against the American people, and I do urge them in our federal law enforcement agencies to act accordingly, and responsibly in the discharge of their duties and obligations to arrest said miscreants for prosecution in defense of the American people and our constitution.

How do you like this? No truer words spoken in our modern times....

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2010-02-03T23:59:44Z

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nancy Sutton on Bullock the Best and Worst

2010-02-03T23:56:16Z

Dear Allen, I once saw an interview of 3 sex offenders/ pedophiles on a national tv show. They were being interviewed and near the end of the interview they were asked if they would sexually abuse children ever again when they get out? One of the men said - "I wouldn't leave me alone with your children."

All I have ever read or seen concerning pedophiles is they 'cannot' be rehibilitated.
I personally have no grace fot them. I think they should all be put in a prisson together and
throw away the key. What they do to a person's live is more than criminal..... it is Soul Murder.

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The Last Cainanite on Islamic Profiling

2010-02-03T11:35:44Z

Allen Hunt said in a tweet...
OK, I watched the Hangover for like the 8th time this weekend. I never watch movies more than once. What is the matter with me?

Hangover is ungodly. Watching it even once, let alone 8 times, is conduct unbecomming a former pastor!

Allen Hunt said in a tweet...
2 weeks from today Valentine's day DAYTONA Ahhh, the hard life choices.

I say Daytona. What's more romantic than a campout in the infield of the Daytona Motor Speedway? At least if you are from Appalachia? Definitely not much!
Besides, it will be the 9th anniversary of Dale Earnhardt's fatal crash. And 9 is 3². I hope the Missus buys that.

By the way, how did a guy who got crucified upside down become a patron saint of romantic love? Oh I know, it's like with Christmas and Saturnalia and Easter and different fertlity celebrations (hence the eggs and bunnies - neither of which are symbolic of supernatural resurrection but rather of quite natural fertlity) - pagan holidays with a very thin veneer of Christianization. Valentine's Day antecedent is called Lupercalia, another fertility festival connected to Romulus and Remus, the mythical founders of the city who were suckled by a shewolf after being put in a basket and thrown into the Tiber (remind you of anyone?). One of the Lupercalia customs was a kind of lottery where names of young unmarried women were drawn by young men and who would then become their "valentine" if you will for the duration of the festival.
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Brian Patrick O'Malley on Bullock the Best and Worst

2010-02-03T01:40:14Z

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Erik on Islamic Profiling

2010-02-02T12:37:55Z

Catcher in the Rye wsa my favorite book in high school. JD Salinger died today. Rest well, Holden, rest well!

Salinger was a Buddhist. So I guess he won't be resting all that well.
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The Last Cainanite on Islamic Profiling

2010-02-02T10:53:37Z

Allen Hunt said in a tweet...
OK, I watched the Hangover for like the 8th time this weekend. I never watch movies more than once. What is the matter with me?

Hangover is ungodly. Watching it even once, let alone 8 times, is conduct unbecomming a former pastor!

Jo Ann Wingfield said in comment # 1...
2 weeks from today Valentine's day DAYTONA Ahhh, the hard life choices.

I say Daytona. What's more romantic than a campout in the infield of the Dattona Motor Speedway? At least if you are from Appalachia? Definitely not much!
Besides, it will be the 9th anniversary of the Dale Earnhardt crash. And 9 is 3². I hope the Missus buys that.

By the way, how did a guy wo got crucified upside down become a patron saint of romantic love? Oh I know, it's like with Christmas and Saturnalia and Easter and different fertlity celebrations (hence the eggs and bunnies - neither of which are symbolic of supernatural resurrection but rather of quite natural fertlity) - pagan holidays with a very thin veneer of Christianization. Valentine's Day antecedent is called Lupercalia, another fertility festival connected to Romulus and Remus, the mythical founders of the city who were suckled by a shewolf after being put in a basket and thrown into the Tiber (remensicent of Oedipus and Moses). One of the Lupercalia customs was a kind of lottery where names of young unmarried women were drawn by young men and who would then become their "valentine" if you will for the duration of the festival. ... Read Entire Post

The Last Cainanite on Islamic Profiling

2010-02-02T10:21:25Z

Lyle W. Wammer said in comment # 3...
say or suggest that the president is not a marxist or a communist doesn't make sense, since the people he has chosen to associate, align, appoint, and embrace passionately believe in and cite communist beliefs and statements on a regular basis.

Lyle, you don't have a first clue about what "communism" and "Marxism" actually mean. Go read a book, then come back here. Damn Teabaggers, who let them in here anyway?

About profiling, even a child could see that profiling based on how someone looks or what their name is, is not a very effective way to screen for potential terrorists. Any competent terror cell could easily adapt to that - by for example using converts (and as we all know recent converts tend to be the most radical, be it Muslim or Christian or even PETA) who neither look stereotypically Muslim nor have an Arabic name.
It's just like this suspicion TSA is supposed to have against people who have one way tickets, check no luggage or pay for their tickets with cash. Sure, the crotch bomber was three for three there but he was also not competent enough to actually detonate the bomb or even attempt to detonate it in the privacy of a head rather than in his seat, so that kinda proves my point. Any halfway competent terrorist would try to look as unsuspicious as possible which means buying a two way ticket, packing a suitcase or two , getting a credit card. These things are neither difficult nor expensive and in the long run only inconvenience people who leegitimately do any of these things.

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Lyle W. Wammer on Islamic Profiling

2010-01-31T23:56:10Z

On Sunday 31st show, you stated that Reverend Wright's church was a good church. You also disagreed with a blogger that "marxist and communists need not attend church because they don't believe in God. " My reply is, "woe unto those that call evil good and good evil." Barack's previous church was an environment filled with profanity and treasonous rhetoric. To say or suggest that the president is not a marxist or a communist doesn't make sense, since the people he has chosen to associate, align, appoint, and embrace passionately believe in and cite communist beliefs and statements on a regular basis. If you expect people to take you seriously, then you need to speak honestly, which in this case means standing up for truth with unashamed frankness. Please ponder this...God bless you for your abundant good works. Thank you. >>>>> Read Entire Post

Mary Crossland on Islamic Profiling

2010-01-29T16:05:32Z

IMO, anybody who says he doesn't believe in racial profiling is either lying, nuts or just plain stupid. >>>>> Read Entire Post

Erik on Porn Solutions

2010-01-28T20:26:57Z

Jeff said in comment # 2...
boys become abusers of women - using them and throwing them away,

Only if you are very very lucky. the rest of us wind up living with women.
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Jeff on Porn Solutions

2010-01-28T17:12:37Z

Porn is an exciting but hollow counterfeit of the quiet but fulfilling love that God designed us all to give and receive. C.S. Lewis' book The Four Loves should be mandatory reading for anyone who wishes to speak on this subject.

Churches that act like Pharisees actually SOW the very evil they claim to oppose! By conducting their witch hunts, they guarantee that children will never develop the capacity to give and receive real love. Youngsters NEED to experience real love. They need to experience plenty of natural affection in a non-lustful context. By denying children such affection, they eventually experience affection only in the context of lust, and never learn how to distinguish between the two.

One of the biggest witch hunters I ever knew in church was a guy who'd had to marry his girlfriend when they were sixteen. He assumes that everyone is exactly the way he was. By imposing his Phariseeism on the church, he guarantees that the youth WILL turn out the way he did! By denying them the chance to learn true love, he cripples the youth, ensuring one of two outcomes. Some youth will become a Pharisee just like him, while others will become the other extreme - totally rejecting ALL restraint and giving themselves over to complete debauchery.

The ONLY antidote to porn is real love. Families and churches NEED to practice it so that children will not grow up emotionally crippled. And children NEED to experience it while they're still young enough to be shaped by it. Otherwise, girls become "boy crazy" - jumping into bed with every boy they can (some also become insecure and anorexic), and boys become abusers of women - using them and throwing them away, and sometimes beating them.

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Robert Campbell sr. on Dr. King a "Communist Agitator"?

2010-01-28T17:03:04Z

Dr. King was antithetical to Malcolm X, and was a Christian leader as well as for being a political activist. After-all, wasn't Christ himself crucified by the corrupt political and religious entities of his time?

Dr. King would be appalled by our current political and religious, secular/ liberal, state of affairs here in the good old USA.

You can believe what ever you want and that is a part of what freedom entails. However, freedom does not entail legalizing perversion, decadence, secular subversion, foreign religion, or murder of any kind to work through the auspices of our Gov�t and our institutions. To legalize such decadent, adverse and perverse subterfuge, and allowing its continued existence to play an active role in our Gov't, society, and classrooms would only perpetuate the high crimes being committed against the American people, and humanity. To enforce such decadence, adverse and perverse subterfuge upon our society as a twisted form of public acceptance by allowing such treasonable indoctrinations to be taught to our kids within our public classrooms is an insult to the American people, our God and his natural order in creation.

I find perverse sexuality, abortion, gov�t and social subterfuge to be detrimentally subversive, adversative, and perverting to our form of Gov�t, national identity, and unconstitutional! In the full literal sense! In the name of freedom we might as well legalize and promote bestiality, polygamy, rape, under age sex, child molesting, the murder of those who should have been aborted, secular/religious subversives, and foreigners to permanently exist within our gov�t and our institutions, etc. Furthermore, I did not write hate. Some only interpret it that way because it describes their true nature; pervert, and subversive! The future New Age Spartans�.

Therefore, Gov�t is to enforce the mores and norms in our society based on the will of the majority as long as it does not conflict with the laws of God or that of the naturally intended in the rational sense, and not in the freak minority sense in which many refuse to see themselves in; and that is called denial! Put it to the vote again! We were the greatest country on earth before the perverts, crooked monkey gods, secular subversives or people of a foreign religion infiltrated our Gov't and institutions. Now we are possibly the most broke, most decadent and most subverted country on the planet�.

So, all who are subversives, and perverts feel free to play in your closets all you want within the law. This is a big part of the problem we all must contend with is that of our laws not being properly enacted and enforced to protect society from the perverts, monkey gods, and subversives or a foreign religion infiltrating our Gov�t and our institutions. This, along with the fact that we should of never have had to entertain such perverse, adverse and subversive propositions in the first place that has resulted in the amusement of the mentally disturbed, and the undermining of our form of Gov�t, our national identity or our society.

So, now all the subversives, and perverts are slowly creeping out of their twisted little closets and are being allowed to flaunt their perversion, and subversion in the face of our society. Is this your twisted idea of freedom that allows others to twist our constitution, our society, our national identity, and our form of Gov�t to accommodate the freak minority? Hell�s Bells! And a Piece that Smells! I hate the perversion, and the subversion of our country; not the people!

Furthermore, our founders defined `Republic� as men and woman of Christian Godly character in which you will find it defined as such in an old original Daniel Webster dictionary, and in a majority, if not all, of our states constitutions. The founders intended that men and woman be of Christian Godly character in order serve in the auspices of our Govt.

However, the offices of our gov�t were not to be used as a pulpit to avoid denominational dominance and tyranny. This is set up to prevent perverts, and subversives form getting into our high offices and undermining our form of Gov�t, our national identity, and our society. People must think our founders were pretty stupid not to have set up precautionary measures to prevent such subversion, and subterfuge from ever happening?

As a result, our founders intended that the auspices of our gov�t be use to make laws and to govern based on a higher authority other than man, and that was the Judeo-Christian God and the laws, and rationales contained within his texts. You will find this in our founders personal notes and documented rationales, and in a number of early supreme court rulings.

We were a Republic in which majority rules through the Democratic process of voting in which majority ruled. Now it seems to be a fraud. We have elections that are complete corporate sponsored frauds. The secular corporate, liberal media hypes up run-of-the-mill ultra-liberal candidates through a continuous media blitz, and the spending $700-million in corporate campaign contributions. Not to mention voter fraud and ACORN, and indoctrinating elements like Planned Parenthood. There is a lot more that can be said about all this, only you will have to go back to the right school to learn it.

I�ve read the founding documents and no where does it even imply that perversion, decadence, secular subversion or a foreign religion are to be enacted into our laws and enforced upon the American people by any of our auspices of gov�t and our institutions being placed in submission to the wishes of the people who make up the freak minority. Abortion, homosexuality, secular/liberal progressive subversiveness or foreign religious subterfuge is harmful, offensive, and infringes upon the rights of the majority of the people here in the US and on this planet.

I find that we the people have the inalienable right to live in a society free from perversion/decadence, tyranny of the elite minority and them that subscribe to it. Most Americans do not want perversion or decadence, tyranny and subterfuge forced upon them and their families. The people do not want their kids subjugated to the perversion/decadence, secularism/liberalism, foreign religions, and tyranny of the freak minority. We the people find it treasonable, highly offensive, harmful, and an infringement to our wellbeing and our way of life here in the Christian Nation of America.

I find in America that it is Gov�t for the people by the people. Majority rule even if it has become obscured in recent times. I�m sorry if that offends one�s extremely manorial sense of perversion. It�s like a fanatic or a demon possessed person saying they are a good Christian even though the scripture states they who do these certain things are an abomination. ooh! that so hateful! says the ruggedly confused very liberal shrew�.

The best thing about our constitution is the right to bare arms in which we can remove any entity who usurps the will of the majority and undermines our Democratic Republic.This entails the concentrating of wealth and power into the hands of the few wherein the wealth and power is to stay in the hands of the people to make sure of our freedom. The tyrannical enactment and enforcement of ungodly, unjust, and alien laws upon our citizenry, and so much more�.

Killing is killing whether it be a babe in the womb or some undesirable sleeping in an ally who should have also been aborted in the first place because his parents were too young for parenting or hooked on drugs.

Now, if you want to play God and decide who gets to live or die based on material pursuits, the sin of a parent (rapist or not), age of a parent, or the potential risk to the health of the parent then I say to you that you do not know the true principles our founders based our whole form of Gov�t, our national identity, and or our society upon.

Laws based in moral principles established by the Judeo-Christian God who just happens to be our creator in spite of what the secular liberal fringe element monkey gods have to say about it. Our Judeo-Christian heritage is what made our country great, strong, different from all other forms of gov�t, and a shining light on a mountain!

Historical truth and our Constitution remains the same regardless of the progressive secular/liberal subversives or the subterfuge of foreign religion attempting to rewrite it, and undermine it through trickery and deception�.

Furthermore, the ape like beings I've been describing here have completely bankrupted, and have almost completely destroyed our country through their own sense of morality, set of principles and social engineering that they have imposed on us by their subversive subterfuge usurping our form of Gov�t, our way of life, and our national identity as it was founded and established over 200yrs ago.
Therefore, the political and socioeconomic subterfuge I've described here does in fact violate our laws-morale laws, sense of security and safety for our families, our country, our form of Gov�t, our national identity, our happiness, and infringes on our freedom to live in a society where the minority does not dictate its will and moral laws on the majority. For a person to believe otherwise must be mentally deranged or a secular/liberal Fascist! You might as well say that our Democracy, and our Republic is crap!

There is a documented case where a gay based children�s story book was handed out in some of our public classrooms. The book was a story about how two gay princes met, fell in love, kissed, and lived happily ever after�.Terrible stuff! The American Center for Law and Justice got it removed. Thank God!

So, don�t forget the gay book incident or down-play homosexuality and gay marriage because the freak secular/liberal minority are seriously trying to redefine marriage, rewrite and redefine our constitution to include the right to publicly display and promote secular/liberal subversion, perversion/decadence, and foreign religions over our own. Shoving it down all our throats in spite of the fact that such subterfuge was voted down by a majority of the people in 99% of the states where it was put to the vote.

Look how our progressively subversive, secular/ liberal, Supreme Court with their activist monkey-god judges have twisted our freedom of speech, and right to privacy to include the killing of the future unborn American, and perverse and decadent relationships�. Horrible stuff! Our founders are rolling over in their graves over that one! They have turned abortion into a multi-billion dollar racket! It also strips away the rights of the father over his born or unborn children, and that of the parents over their young girls. This is nothing more than secular corporate, liberal big Gov�t profit motive, and a social divide and conquer tactic. This is the danger in replacing the real God and his principles with that of the`I wanna play god� personality types and their idea of principles for us to live by!

Furthermore, there is a lot of emotion, passion, and greed involved with governing and law making that seems to boil down to money, power, and social class warfare. Humankind are not machines and hopefully not all psychopaths. I believe certain inalienable rights include the right of the majority to live in a society free from secular perversion, liberal decadence, and alien subterfuge in the pursuit of life, freedom, and happiness�.

I have further found that the secular/liberal movement is nothing more than a collection of secular or foreign religious radical liberal fringe elements within and from without our society looking to usurp the principles, values, and the will of the true American majority. Thus, causing the civil unrest we are all use to seeing and hearing about from both sides of the political spectrum.

However, the secular or foreign religious radical liberal fringe elements who are attempting to impose their perverse, and adverse anti-American agenda on us and our children have the full aid and support of the secular corporate, mass liberal media machine. This media monstrosity along with the radical fringe elements who have infiltrated our political arena continually bombard the true American majority with subterfuge that seems to add credence to their invented liberal stigmas and labels (liberal buzz words) in trying to quiet, and crush the opposition; US!

I have also found that the word `Liberal� in this day and age actually means `Fascism disguised as Freedom� where Liberty means you are free to do what we say and take what we give you. This is accomplished through creating false stigmas or liberal `buzz words� like `Hate� or `Racist� to cover-up their real agenda of false promise, hate, racism, prejudice, sexism, and globalism within these anti-American secular, adverse religious, radical liberal fringe elements. God Bless America. God knows, we need it�.

Therefore, anyone who has read this article should know by now why it is so dangerous to allow foreigners, and people with alien religious affiliation, whether secular or religious in nature, into our Gov't and its institutions. This is especially true when they are in direct covert and overt opposition to our own religion and principles. People who view Judeo-Christians as infidels, pagans, gentiles, or monkeys do not care what they promote or enforce upon us and our children because we do not matter or count for anything unless we convert to their religion or die.

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissuesArticles.asp?id=58
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Jo Ann Wingfield on Islamic Profiling

2010-01-25T11:04:56Z

Seems to me profiling is just a good investigative technique. We can't be tying the hands of law enforcement, especially now. >>>>> Read Entire Post

Erik on Dr. King a "Communist Agitator"?

2010-01-23T14:36:44Z

said in comment # 5...
If that is true then how come I have never found one speech he made, one writing he wrote that called on people to give themselves to Christ?

This moron sort of has a point, doesn't he? If you take the Bible literally then Dr. King was not much of a Christian leader. I mean, what's the big deal about where you sit on a bus compared to where you spend eternity right? That's what this guy means and he's correct from that point of view. But of course if you actually comprehend the message of Christ, which Allen apparently does here (perhaps inadvertently) then you realize that Dr. King was living very much according to the principles Jesus taught. His death is proof of that. >>>>> Read Entire Post

The Last Cainanite on Dr. King a "Communist Agitator"?

2010-01-22T11:07:34Z

Allen Hunt said in the OP...

The hatred surprised me. Was King perfect? No. But we have sunk to a level in America now where we expect anyone who receives praise and admiration to be entirely perfect.

Nobody expect people who receive praise and admiration to be perfect. I think there are three things at play here.
One is the still present latent racism among many. That is easy to see and I won't spend more time on it.
The other two are more interesting. For one, Martin Luther King has been hagiographed in our contemporary culture so much that it can be easy to forget that he was a human being with human failings, both minor (adultery) and major (communist ties, plagiarism).
Third thing is that he was a pastor. Man of God. A preacher and teacher. Even the Bible says that "not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness." (James 3:1 ESV)
Even secularly this opens him up to charges of hypocrisy. If he preaches against "bearing false witness" but is himself guilty of plagiarism or against "sexual immorality" and he himself likes some strange on the side these charges are justified. In communism alone he is immune from charges of hypocrisy as there are some Biblical passages supportive of communism (for example holding all property communally in Acts) and there is a long tradition of Christian communism.

You do not assess a person by one part of who he is but by the totality of his life. We are seeing the same thing in attacking Pat Robertson right now for his remarks about Haiti

Comparing that vile person to Martin Luther King Jr. is an insult quite frankly. Pat Robertson is a radical fundamentalist who wanst to impose his brand of Christianity onto everyone else. His statements about Haiti are hardly isolated and are but latest of a long string of hateful statements against any and all groups not submitting to his brand of fundamentalist Christianity, not only Moslems, Hindus, or secularists but also his fellow Christians like mainline Protestants whom Robertson accused of harboring the spirit of the Antichrist. Not to mention that he is also a false prophet, proclaiming things (like the 1982 end of the world) that didn't come to pass.

Pat Robertson just might be the anti-King. King did many things right and some wrong while Pat Robertson did most things wrong and (possibly) some right. If we judge the totality of a person's life, Pat Robertson's life has been weighted in the balances and found wanting.
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The Last Cainanite on Dr. King a "Communist Agitator"?

2010-01-22T11:03:07Z

Allen Hunt said in the OP...

The hatred surprised me. Was King perfect? No. But we have sunk to a level in America now where we expect anyone who receives praise and admiration to be entirely perfect.

You do not assess a person by one part of who he is but by the totality of his life. We are seeing the same thing in attacking Pat Robertson right now for his remarks about Haiti

Erik on No Such Thing as Hump Day

2010-01-20T19:03:14Z

The Last Cainanite said in comment # 2...
Allen Hunt said in a tweet...Gatorade: one of GOd's finest creations!

I was going to comment on this as well! It's interesting as an example of how depraved the logic is- anything "good," even the clearly man-made stuff such as Gatorade or Motrin or whatever, they will go on and on thanking God for, and yet the ACTUAL God-made stuff such as influenza virus- that they want to blame "man" for (usually via the "fall").
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The Last Cainanite on No Such Thing as Hump Day

2010-01-20T17:10:05Z

Allen Hunt said in a tweet...
Gatorade: one of GOd's finest creations!

One of my pet peeves is theists like you ascribing all good things to God, even if things are demonstrably the product of human ingenuity and inventiveness while not blaming God for anything (such as hitting one of the poorest nations on Earth with a devastating series of earthquakes)

Naturalistic worldview is so much more honest and consistent. Gatorade is seen as it really is - as a product originally developed at the University of Florida (hence Gatorade, not Jesusade). We in the reality based community also see earthquakes for what they really are - natural events without a teleological basis.
I think you view earthquakes and other natural disasters the same way but that view is inconsistent with a belief in a deity such as the Bible describes (see Matthew 10:28-29:
Are not two sparrows sold for a penny? Yet not one of them will fall to the ground apart from the will of your Father.
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The Last Cainanite on No Such Thing as Hump Day

2010-01-20T16:58:51Z

Allen Hunt said in the OP...

So here is the important question. How do you multiply Friday and Saturday into other days of your week?

Adopt a two day workweek... :)

I agree with you on the importance of taking time off. In America people work way too much. Western Europe has struck a much better balance between work and leisure (nowhere near the two day workweek though; that'd be a bit too much of a good thing). ... Read Entire Post

The Last Cainanite on A Letter to Scott Roeder

2010-01-20T15:59:43Z

Part 2 of my response:

Allen Hunt said in the OP...

Worse still, your group has assumed the divine right to take life in order to serve the cause of saving life. For centuries, Christians have articulated the rare occasions when the use of violence is morally defensible.

For example when someone expresses ideas deemed "heretical" by the clergy. See the Albigensian Crusade for one among many examples. During the Albigensian Crusade in the 13th century the Catholic Church set to eradicate the sect of Chatars ("Pure Ones") that it deemed heretical. In the process the Catholic Church massacred some 200,000 to 1,000,000 people. I guess that qualifies as a "rare occasion when the use of violence is morally defensible".

For example, only legitimate national governments acting as moral agents have the authority to declare war.

Like for example the legitimate national government of Germany, right? I mean that government was good enough for the now "venerable" (declared as such recently by the Hitler Youth Pope Ratzinger - coincidence?) Pope Pius XII whose role during World War II got him the moniker "Hitler's Pope" in the eponymous book by John Cornwall.

Mr. Roeder, your �Army of God� invokes the faith with great gusto but also with great disregard for the teachings of the man you claim to follow, Jesus. In the face of violence, even in the face of his own torture and death, Jesus turned the other cheek.

There are many "Jesuses" in the Bible. "Jesus meek and mild" being only one of the more boring ones. I think this Jesus is more to Scot Roeder's liking:

While I mourn with you the deaths of pre-born children, I rejoice in the fact that the pro-life movement is gaining strength and public opinion as evidenced in recent polls showing slow movement back toward the valuing of human life.

I think that is more wishful thinking than anything. While public opinion will ebb and flow I do not see it swinging far enough to make banning abortions possible.
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The Last Cainanite on A Letter to Scott Roeder

2010-01-20T15:19:38Z

Allen said in the OP...

Now mind you, I hear your pain. My soul aches deeply every day at the fact that more than 1,200,000 children each year will not see their own birth in this country.

What about all the embryos and fetuses that get miscarried in America every year? As many as half of all pregnancies (including undetected pregnancies as many embryos get miscarried before the woman realizes she is preggers) result in a miscarriage.
It seems to me that under any consistent theistic worldview, miscarriage is really an abortion performed by God. At least abortion doctors act on behalf of women, not against them. So pro-lifers should really be angry at God. He is a much more prolific abortionists than George Tiller or Planned Parenthood.

While you have chosen to kill as a tactic, many others and I seek to serve mothers in crisis and their pre-born children in ways that offer them hope and love.

Those "crisis pregnancy centers" are deceptive in that they advertise with things like "Pregnant? Worried? Call 404-555-1000" without disclosing that they are a front for anti-abortion organizations that will do . Girls and women seeking help and objective counseling will instead experience manipulative tactics designed to prevent them from seeking an abortion even if they want to. That caused the city of Baltimore to pass legislation requiring more disclosure by these centers.

I am deeply disturbed that the most dangerous place in a child's life in America is in her own mother's warm womb.

And as I said before, that danger comes much more frequently, if you subscribe to a theistic worldview, from the invisible "Finger of God" rather than from an abortion doctor's instruments.

Killing in the name of life is not only logically inconsistent, it is also morally wrong.

Tell that to our boys who defeated fascism in WWII!

As a member of the self-named �Army of God,� you and your group have arrogated to yourselves something that rightly belongs to the God you claim to serve, namely the taking or ending of human life.

So as long as God does it, anything goes? From ending half the pregnancies and snuffing all these "pre-born" embryos to genocide (see assorted passages of the Hebrew Bible - chances are if you open a page at random there will be genocide - or the Book of Revelation)... Read Entire Post

The Last Cainanite on The Water is Wide

2010-01-20T14:59:12Z

Erik and Allen both like the same book? How is that even possible?
Maybe I should read me some Pat Conroy. >>>>> Read Entire Post

David Schinkelburg on Have Yourself a Very Jihad Christmas

2010-01-20T14:31:11Z

From the 17th to 20th January 2010, in Jos (Nigeria, Africa) the Christians just demonstrated their fake of "martyrdom" and "love of the enemy": There, they tried impeding the construction of a mosque by putting up with about 300 of killed humans. Western media concealed this huge amount of several hundreds of dead ones caused by Christian ignominious �love of the enemy�. and fake of "martyrdom" . They want to fob the Muslims off as the "terrorists" to their readers. Facts like this one belie the Western propaganda denouncing Islam (and not Christianity) as the top threat to the human right of freedom of religion. Source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=116601§ionid=351020505): What are two dozons of American Christians against hundreds of Muslims massacred by the Christians? Christians' "ethics" are founded on the psychological projection of seeing the speck in one's enemy's eye and to deny the own log. They even are that impertinent as to blame others for the disgrace of their own...!... Read Entire Post

David Schinkelburg on Have Yourself a Very Jihad Christmas

2010-01-20T14:30:25Z

The Last Cainanite on Roeder the Tiller Killer

2010-01-20T11:02:50Z

Erik said in comment # 1...
I imagine the Last Cainanite will do his usual superlative job at showing the glaring contradictions, hypocrisy and errors in logic of the above.
I think I'll just wait.

Dude, that's some lavish praise. Too lavish, which is why it took me so long to take a crack at it.

Allen said in the OP...

Killing someone in the name of being pro-life is logically inconsistent. We do not do evil things to bring about good. The end does not justify the means. How we do something matters as much as the goal we try to attain.

The end can justify the means. It depends on ends and the means. It cannot be categorically said that end doesn't justify the means. Take war for example.

Allen said in the OP...
Islamic terror struggles mightily with this idea. Al Qaeda and others justify the use of any means necessary to make their points and force conversions. And so we have a never-ending stream of terror attacks around the world.

It is interesting that you bitch and moan and single out Islamic terror when the topic of this thread is ostensibly a Christian terror attack. Your Islam fixation is really unbecoming Allen.
What you mention here is hallmark of all terrorism.

Allen said in the OP...
Take a look at Romans 3:5-8 to remember that how we act matters as much as what we believe.

I did. This passage has nothing to do with Paul speaking against "ends justify the means" arguments. On the contrary, in 1 Corinthians 9 Paul makes clear that he is not above dishonesty if it will help him gain more converts. Back to your Romans 3 passage. What it is really about (and what one that claims a PhD in New Testament from Yale should know) is that a catholicizing redactor is trying to bridge the gap between Marcionite antinomian Christians (original authors of Pauline material) and Jewish Torah Christians. This passage is not about doing evil things that result in supposed good (like murdering abortion doctors or blowing up your underwear), it's about our sins making God look all the more righteous by comparison to your abundance of sin. The same line of thought is continued in Romans 5 and 6 where Romans 6:1-2 reads:
¹What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
²God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

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joe on Rifqa Bary Update

2010-01-15T21:24:37Z

get ready for some more evidence to come forward >>>>> Read Entire Post

David on The Water is Wide

2010-01-15T14:47:52Z

Indictment of God? In what way? >>>>> Read Entire Post

David on The Blind Side

2010-01-15T14:43:43Z

Allan,
The Hangover? Really? It had a good plot and was well acted and funny. It was also full of smut. It was putrid. There are worse, but it was pretty bad. One of the top three best in recent years? Wow, Hollywood must have really put out total crap in the last few years. "It is about right and wrong." Well, Allen this was right in the middle of wrong. I guess we all miss some now and then. I hope you rethink this one. If this is a general indicator than I'm not sure what is your measure of right. I feel bad being a little harsh, but I was very disappointed when I watched the movie. It did portray some redeeming qualities, but the large amount of "poop in the brownie" left me wondering about the rave. >>>>> Read Entire Post

Erik on The Water is Wide

2010-01-15T11:40:53Z

Finally Allen is starting to make some sense! Best post ever.

Also check out My Losing Season It begins, "I was born to be a point guard, but not a very good one."
Complete indictment of God and illustration of everything that is wrong with the world in one sentence. Amazing.
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David on Pardon Me, Huckabee

2010-01-14T15:49:00Z

Cainanite and Pazin,
I'm not a big fan of a lot of Huckabee's policies, but in the case of the particular pardon in question, there was a clear indication that the punishment was out of balance with the crime. >>>>> Read Entire Post

David on Roeder the Tiller Killer

2010-01-14T15:36:57Z

As a follower of Christ, am I ever allowed to use force in defence of innocence? Killing for God's purpose is exemplified throughout Scripture, and not just in self-defense. I am not advocating Roeder's actions, but the question when is force too far? Where is the line? >>>>> Read Entire Post

zeitgeist2012 on Seven Steps to Security Sanity

2010-01-13T21:31:01Z

The Islāmic prophet Mohammed is said to have had a spider make a web across the mouth of a small cave to hide him from his enemies on one occasion. I believe this same spider has moved into the front door of our White House.

I find that Barack Hussein Obama attended an Islāmic school for 5yrs. or more in or near his home country of Kenya. Who really knows what the truth is behind Obama's real identity with his place of birth and his associations being hidden from the American people by our own ultra-liberal govt, ultra-liberal courts and ultra-liberal media. When Obama actually moved back to the US after attending Muslim school he registered as being a Muslim within our own schools. Furthermore, I found that within the Islāmic religion Muslims are allowed to lie to subvert and conquer the infidels; this being unlike Judeo-Christianity....

I believe Islam is a forgery of Judeo-Christianity except for some major differences Mohammed decided to throw in to empower, and enrich himself. It is a fact that Mohammed borrowed from Judeo-Christianity in the making of his Islāmic religion, and by tying it into Ishmael for legitimacy.The rest he made up as he went along to get his empire built. This is how Jihad came into existence. Infidels are to eventually convert or die. Not much love, tolerance, or forgiveness there.

However, in Judeo-Christianity Yahshua died for us all, and we are not required to die or kill for him even though millions were killed for his name sake. Judeo-Christianity is the oldest religion on the planet wherein all others followed and transitioned into what we know of today. The prophets in Judaism foretold the advent of Christianity and are therefore intrinsically tied together....

I further find that In Islam the twelfth Imam or the Al-mahdi fits the bill of the Christian anti-christ described in the book of Revelations with the white horse, miraculous powers and the whole nine yards. Them who refuse to bow down and submit to the anti-christ system will have their heads cut off or be imprisoned. There are them in Islam who teach their children to cut off heads in a certain way to please their god-Allah. The Christian text does say that the pagan Roman church is involved with this end time scenario as well....

However, fortune tellers and them who practice witchcraft are forsaken in the Judeo-Christian texts as being false prophets even though false prophets will be right at least part of the time. After all, Lucifer and his collaborators are powerful beings who work through people, too.You can tell a real prophet by what he or she says being 100% true all the time if they are of the real God. The discovery of the bible codes has a lot of people on edge along with the recent scientific findings on the Shroud of Turin, and much more....

I further found that the prophets of the old and new testaments have had 98% of their prophecy already fulfilled and documented. Many national leaders have or have had their own personal psychics. We have Nostradamus and Edgar Gayce to name a few who have a high percentage rate of accuracy in their predictions, but not 100% never the less....

Therefore, it is only fair to say that there is a lot of exploitation in Christianity. Most of the Christian churches do not follow scripture or teach the scriptures accurately. This is why you should not play follow the leader with anyone. Learn the truth within the texts for yourself for this is what it teaches, and maybe then you will find the real God, and his real son.

Furthermore, modern archaeologists find more evidence practically everyday that validates and supports what is written in the Judeo-Christian texts. It is truly amazing. As for pagan Rome and their churches all I can say is that Lucifer and his fallen angels work in their mysteriously deceptive ways to get people and nations to worship them.

I have found that Babylon is the founder of paganism from which all pagan gods evolved and were handed down throughout the different generations. Even the Vatican and its other Roman churches still have statues of the Roman pagan gods in them. They only renamed the pagan statues after the saints and Mary the mother of Yahshua. All this has been said before and is documented in many different books and booklets, and I assure you it is the farthest thing from being silly. It is estimated that the corrupt Roman church killed about 100-million people during the dark ages. If this is not the forces of evil working through people and their institutions, what is it then?

Furthermore, no other religion offers forgiveness for sin through grace and faith wherein good works follow as evidence of this transformation of heart and mind. Furthermore, you are not required to die for God or his son to have forgiveness, nor kill others. No other tomb is empty except for one. There is allot more politically, socially, domestically, rationally, philosophically, scientifically and prophetically found within the Judeo-Christian texts that does not exist in any other religion known to man. All one has to do is actually read it and understand it for themselves and the truths will become self-evident....

However, I want to further clarify my position on my religion to avoid any mockery or mis-understanding. I believe in El-Yahweh and his son Yahshua who died for our sins to bring us back to our Father/Creator to worship and glorify him.Yahshua will receive his praise and glory from the Father. El-Yahweh is a jealous God, one God, spirit and not man unlike his only begotten son Yahshua. El-Yahweh does not change. I believe in all the commandments (especially the fourth commandment) given to us to by our Creator to live by for this is his mark on his people.

Therefore, it is obvious that I do not fit in with any of the known organized religious institutions. Even if you're the only one to stand out alone from among the multitude you shall be the only one saved; put your trust in no man lest you be deceived. Words of wisdom to live by. I can think of none better. I do not put my trust, faith or salvation in any man or woman because their hearts are continually evil. We are all sinners, but blessed are those who over-come....

Watch this before it is gone!
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28
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