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The Real Loser of the Saddleback Civil Forum with Obama, McCain, & Warren (Video)

One of the greatest moments in a Presidntial Campaign happened last night and I am pretty sure we all missed it because we were watching Phelps get his 8th gold medal.

I am not really sure who "won" this discussion; Obama, McCain, and Warren for that matter all represented themselves beautifully. But I know with out a doubt, hands down who the losers were: James Dobson, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Al Franken, Bill Maher, and countless others.

Warren showed us what it truly means to be a patriotic American and to ask the tough questions that we aren't all going to agree on, but deserve to be discussed in a civil, mature, and respectful manner.

There was no "Stop Obama Expresses" allowed at Saddleback. There were no "Evil Neocon Bush Administrations." Simply tough, fair, and introspective questions for two people running for a very tough job.

In the opening segment Warren made the comment
I have to tell you upfront but both these guys are my friends. I don't happen to agree with everything either teach or believe, but they both care deeply about America. They're both Patriots and they have very different views on how America can be strengthened in America. We've got to learn to disagree with out demonizing each other and we need to restore civility. We need to restore civility in our civil discourse and that's the goal of the Saddleback Civil Forum.


Great job Rick! I am very proud of you. Great job!

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Lynda Wunsch
Sunday, August 17, 2008 09:38:26 PM    Quote Selection | Permalink
Gravatar.com I could not agree more with your comment, Allen. Thank you for saying exactly what I have been thinking for a very long time. I loved what you said on your show tonight about believing in the separation of church & politics but not the separation of faith & politics. Bravo to you and bravo to Pastor Warren!!


Ralph
Monday, August 18, 2008 06:45:39 AM    Quote Selection | Permalink
Gravatar.com I would like to hear a psychanalysis of why Obama kept his head tilted all during the interview except in the very end when he was not answering but extolling about himself.


Matt Cress
Monday, August 18, 2008 09:29:49 AM    Quote Selection | Permalink
Gravatar.com Thanks for posting these Andy! very informative


Justin
Monday, August 18, 2008 02:26:36 PM    Quote Selection | Permalink
Gravatar.com Does Obama have a crick in his neck? Or is the right side of his head just so heavy that it causes that annoying tilt in his head? I don't think I can vote for a right-brained thinker. Before you know it he will be painting his platforms and performing poetry in his speeches. Stupid artists.


Sarah Elwer
Tuesday, August 19, 2008 10:05:12 AM    Quote Selection | Permalink
Gravatar.com yeah - what the heck Obama - there are dr. who can help your neck problem! :)

I didn't watch it 'cause I don't have TV but thanks - I'll get around to watching them I'm sure.


Andy Borgmann
Tuesday, August 19, 2008 10:08:16 AM    Quote Selection | Permalink
Gravatar.com
Does Obama have a crick in his neck?
yeah - what the heck Obama - there are dr. who can help your neck problem! :)
Someone in another place I post this column went so far as to notice that he did the "neck" think for the entire thing until the very end when he started to talk about himself. They were implying it was a psychological tell and wanted someone to psychoanalysis it.

Maybe those Orange County beds are just really, really uncomfortable ;)


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Andy is the Executive Producer of The Allen Hunt Show; a progressive, talk radio show based in Atlanta, GA aimed at bringing faith back into the public discussion. Andy enjoys travel, aviation, web design, politics, friends, and faith. He holds that the secret to a full life is loving God and loving people - which he fails at constantly.

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