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Thank You James Dobson {sarcasm}
Did you see the most recent attempt of James Dobson trying to prove his political prowess? In a 27 minute segment, Dobson accused Obama of "deliberately distorting the traditional understanding of the Bible to fit his own world view, his own confused theology." Jon Stewart put it a bit more comedically.



Now I am not a blind follower of Jon Stewart theology. The truth is, the Old Testament and New Testament talk about homosexuality, so the issue can't simply be written off as if Leviticus is the only place this is discussed. And I did listen to Barack's whole speech back in January and it was brilliant.

But I am not here to discuss political speeches or debate Jewish comedian exegesis. What I think needs to be addressed is what I think Dobson's legacy will be: dividing our culture to the point where sincere and loving relationships are impossible except in cases where you agree with every opinion.

This past week I met someone who I thought might be a new friend here in Atlanta. We both shared a huge interest in aviation. So I was excited since most of my friends make fun of my aviation curiosity. I could tell from his Facebook page that he was gay. But didn't think anything of it.

So we started talking online and he instantly wants to know about the radio show I produce. He asks are we right wing. I say nope. We are moderate. Next question, "so do you think all homosexuals are going to hell?" Thank you James Dobson.

I, of course, try and explain my thoughts on the issue; probably not very eloquently. But I could tell, it was a loss cause.

Nevermind that last weekend I said on the air one of the three celebrities I'd like to have coffee with is Ellen DeGeneres.

Nevermind that I have defended gay marriage from a legal perspective in other blogs.

Nevermind that I have had lunch with a porn producer.

Nevermind that I sincerely consider Erik of AllenHuntShowSucks.com a friend and genuinely care for the dude.

Thanks to the Dobsonion worldview, a Bible-believing Christian and a homosexual just can't be friends.

It brings me back a little to high school. There was a gay boy at my high school named Jason (not real name). Jason was a year younger than me, and while I am sure there were other gay individuals at Homestead, he was the only one who was "out." I primarily met Jason because he was good friends with my girlfriend Theresa.

I liked Jason. He was a good guy. I can remember one specific night when I was at the school after 10pm working on the yearbook by myself in the pub room. Jason was there for something related to show choir. I don't know what brought him to the pub room that night, but we had a great conversation. Towards the end, I remember saying, "you know Jason, we aren't very different." To which he replied, "No Andy, I don't think that is the case."

The truth is, most of us aren't very different from one another. We just choose to allow the few differences to get in the way. Thanks James.
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Chris Spurgeon
Friday, June 27, 2008 11:58:20 AM    Quote Selection | Permalink
Gravatar.com *Clap *Clap *Clap
Bravo Andy,
This is what I like to hear! I know the "Jason" that you speak of. And well lets say back then I had a different opinion of things. Now that I have worked with/for the public I have interacted with so many different types/races/and backgrounds it would amaze you. After doing so I have come the realization that I should have been doing what my parents taught me when I was a child "treat others as you want to be treated". Now this does not say that I don't have political or biblical beliefs that may go against anothers beliefs but I do have to say, you must think of things a little different when choosing friends you should choose them because you enjoy their company and friendship. There is no reason for such seperation just due to personal views.
Just as a side note: I have a friend who has "locked" out CNBC,CNN, and other "Liberal" channels out of his cable. Why do they do these things? Can we not see both sides or agree with "the other side" on a certain subject? Isn't this kind closed minded?


Sarah Elwer
Sunday, June 29, 2008 06:17:22 PM    Quote Selection | Permalink
Gravatar.com Andrew Borgmann I appreciate your brain!


Nancy
Saturday, July 5, 2008 11:34:43 PM    Quote Selection | Permalink
Gravatar.com I personally apprecaite Dr. Dobson speaking out. On that show he was talking about Obama's faith and how he relates it to government. The speech of Obama's Dr. Dobson commented on had been circurlating widely on the internet before Dr. Dobson commented on it. In the speech Obama talks about which gospel do we use the Rev. Al Sharpton's, or Dr. Dobson's. I imagine Dr. Dobson was surprised, since he's been on a sabaticle working on a book and not commenting alot on politics. As far as I know there is only one gospel and that is the gospel of Jesus Christ.
It was an interesting show, in that I had wondered how someone can be a Christian and support all forms of abortions. Obama doesn't seem to have a very good understanding of the Bible. He didn't seem to understand the difference between the old covenant and the new covenant. Maybe it's because his lack of Biblical understanding that he can support things that are contrary to Biblical teaching.
Dr. Dobson isn't dividing people, if believe in Jesus as Savior and what he taught, there will be division. If you believe what the Bible says is true, there will be people who don't like it.


Andy Borgmann
Saturday, July 5, 2008 11:54:40 PM    Quote Selection | Permalink
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In the speech Obama talks about which gospel do we use the Rev. Al Sharpton's, or Dr. Dobson's.
I am very well aware of the speech. I blogged about it over 6 months ago, and I listened to every second of it. It was a good speech. Didn't agree with everything, but it was very well thought out.

since he's been on a sabaticle working on a book and not commenting alot on politics
Dobson's been on sabbatical because he has realized he has become totally irrelevant in the mainstream discussion.

Obama doesn't seem to have a very good understanding of the Bible.
We all do this. It is why we cling to references about homosexuality (which is where Obama is wrong), but completely ignore the 2,000 verses about taking care of the poor (which most evangelicals seem to miss).


If you believe what the Bible says is true, there will be people who don't like it.
Totally agree with you there.


Amber
Monday, July 7, 2008 06:23:44 PM    Quote Selection | Permalink
Gravatar.com I don't know...I have to disagree with you. I liked Obama UNTIL I read this speech online. There are other things that I don't agree with him on, but real faith, the core of his beliefs, is important to me.

"...Mr. Obama, in Washington, mentioned passages from the Bible that he suggested were in conflict with present-day practices. "

You expect them to be in conflict with today, it was thousands of years ago! However, the message God was trying to teach hasn't changed. God would not ask a father to sacrifice his son on a rooftop today. First of all, there are legal problems and God knows and acknowledges that, second, God had Abraham go to a secluded place. It was about trust.

For me, Obama seems to pick and choose what he likes. You either believe it or you don't. He picks and chooses about a lot of things. I really don't know where this man stands in all aspects of life because I truly believe he doesn't know either. Or he's trying to please too many people at once.

I have one more thing to say: I'm not a John McCain fan either. Or Hilary.


Andy Borgmann
Tuesday, July 8, 2008 04:27:25 PM    Quote Selection | Permalink
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For me, Obama seems to pick and choose what he likes. You either believe it or you don't. He picks and chooses about a lot of things.
I would agree largely with this statement. The only problem is that I think a lot of do this, we just think we don't and everybody else does.


Amber
Friday, July 11, 2008 12:09:13 PM    Quote Selection | Permalink
Gravatar.com "I would agree largely with this statement. The only problem is that I think a lot of do this, we just think we don't and everybody else does."

I agree and confess. I liked Obama now I don't. But the thing is, I know where I stand on Iraq, what I will or will not allow my children to get into, what I think about abortion, and I could go on. Of all people, he should know where he stands. He will be leading the country. It's kind of important. And if he's not sure, maybe he should run for president when he is. He's trying to please too many people at once. What kind of leader is that? He's supposed to lead. Not follow whatever is the fad of the moment.



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Andy is the Executive Producer of The Allen Hunt Show; a progressive, talk radio show based in Atlanta, GA aimed at bringing faith back into the public discussion. Andy enjoys travel, aviation, web design, politics, friends, and faith. He holds that the secret to a full life is loving God and loving people - which he fails at constantly.

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