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For The Love of Money
For the Love Of Money - Why Will People Talk About Their Sex Life Before Talking About Their Money?Someone in my life came to me a couple of months ago and asked for advice on how to pay for his last semester of college. I began to lay out the options that he had; like I have done many times with other college-age individuals. We got to the point where we realized that he would have to take out a small loan. When I went through the different options with him on that, he elected to go with a higher interest rate option of a private lender than attempt to qualify for the federally subsidized Stafford loan because qualifying for the loan would require him to ask his parents for their income tax return. He didn't like this idea because he didn't think his parents would give him that information because they wouldn't want him to know how much they made.

Now I would like to think this is just a weird incident, but I have come to realize that people will talk about anything before they will talk about money. Seriously. Think about it. People will share intimate details of their sex life before talking about their money. People will talk about the medication they are on before they talk about money. Men will share their struggles with pornography, and woman their struggles with eating disorders; but if you bring up money…whoa that’s none of your business.

Maybe it is because I really don't look to anybody for a handout, especially those who have a lot of money. Maybe it is because I live my life pretty transparent in other areas, so I don't think money should be any different. But for whatever reason, I just don't get why money is such a big deal.

A few years ago, a mentor of mine in the ministry made a comment about the fact he makes his IRS income tax return available to anybody in his congregation who wanted to see it. He did this for accountability reasons so that people could see that he practiced what he preached when it came to giving 10% of your income. I often reflected on that conversation and I realized that while I think that is good, it is only half the story. Giving is only half the picture when it comes to money. Materialism and greed are the other half. So from that point on, I have always made my entire financial income / expense report available online for the past six years (when I started keeping track of every penny I made and spent, and yes, I know, I am anal retentive).

It has gotten me in a little trouble from time to time - usually from people who think I make too much. But yet there are people in the tech community that think I make way too little for the job and services I provide. And maybe that is why people are afraid to talk about money. Maybe we have wrapped so much of our identity and self-wroth in our income. To share about our money means to literally share our most intimate identification of our (or our families) self-worth. But I still have to ask the question, why? Why does money say anything about identity at all?

1Timothy 6:10 For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.


I think it is a pretty freeing thing to acknowledge the truth in this verse. When we are no longer a slave to our money, we are no longer a slave to the perceptions that come with it. We find our true self-worth in our relationship with God and each other and not how many zeros are on our income tax return.
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Sarah Elwer
Tuesday, September 4, 2007 12:59:18 PM    Quote Selection | Permalink
Gravatar.com I have so many things I could say about you being anal - but I will let that slide do to the fact that I love what you have to say here!

I have no idea why people will share all the details of life but not their money. However, do you really think it is because they love money (like the verse you quoted)? Maybe people are just insecure about the money they make due to the "keeping up with the Jones" kind of idea - but then again I guess they would have to "love" money in some form to feel insecure about not having it...


Sarah Elwer
Tuesday, September 4, 2007 04:16:55 PM    Quote Selection | Permalink
Gravatar.com P.S. i love the Journey you used on the show this week!


A T Elwer
Thursday, September 6, 2007 05:19:48 PM    Quote Selection | Permalink
Gravatar.com I think some of the issue too is that "the American Dream" is sometimes (if not often times) incompatible with Christianity as preached in the bible. The idea that hard work produces money is true and okay but the question then becomes what do we do with that money we earn. I like the posting of the financial records on the site (a little wierd and anal but, like my wife, i will let slide due to my love for you).

And i think another portion of it is shame. Shame at what money actually gets spent on. Shame at debt. Because debt, wheather they realize it or not, speaks to covetiousness and poor stewardship. I am completly responsible for the $3479 I have in credit card debt. Am I paying it off? Yes, but its there, and really its bondage. Untill the debt is repaid, we have this thing weighing us down. What if for example you wanted to take a lower paying job, (like ministry) but couldnt because of the financial decisions you had made. Just a though, but i think theres something to the idea of the "acceptible sin" of the american dream.
Oh yeah because its all about me!!!!!


Andrew Howard
Thursday, September 6, 2007 05:52:01 PM    Quote Selection | Permalink
Gravatar.com Maybe people shouldn't be more open about money, but rather _less_ open about other issues.

Money is not talked about because in our society is used a comparison tool (which is ridiculous). If we lived in a not capitalistic economy, maybe this would be different - but who wants communism any way?


Sarah
Friday, September 7, 2007 08:59:11 PM    Quote Selection | Permalink
Gravatar.com ha ha ha, I'm sorry - I added you - now you are first :P


Andy Borgmann
Saturday, September 8, 2007 08:41:57 PM    Quote Selection | Permalink
Gravatar.com
Quoted From: Andrew Howard [Visitor]Maybe people shouldn't be more open about money, but rather _less_ open about other issues.
That's probably the best response to this question I have posed, and I have posed this question to a lot of people. I don't agree with it - as you know I think people should be pretty open - but I'll give you that I am probably wrong.


P.S. Your Yellow Jackets spanked my Irish. I figured you would e-mail me and flaunt that a bit.



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Andy is the Executive Producer of The Allen Hunt Show; a progressive, talk radio show based in Atlanta, GA aimed at bringing faith back into the public discussion. Andy enjoys travel, aviation, web design, politics, friends, and faith. He holds that the secret to a full life is loving God and loving people - which he fails at constantly.

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