January 2008
After much prayer and meditation over the past six months, I have shared with Bishop Lindsey Davis that I am relinquishing my status as an ordained United Methodist pastor in the North Georgia Conference. This deeply personal decision reflects my sense that God has called me to serve in a new mission role. Moreover, I believe that God has led me to a new spiritual home in the Catholic Church, so I have made provision to be received as a member into that Church. Anita plans to continue her ministry with children in the United Methodist Church, and I naturally will continue to support her and that ministry with my prayers and my regular volunteer service. I pray God's blessings on my brothers and sisters in ministry in the United Methodist Church, particularly the wonderful family of believers at Mount Pisgah.
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The Catholic church has many "major" problems, but this isn't one of them.
Besides aren't aging priests ultimately better for the church, since they are easier for the kids to outrun?
As Christians, current members of Mt. Pisgah Methodist (your former church) and supportive TAHS listeners,this news is, to say the least, surprising. Can you share anything that may enlighten us about why you are switching from Protestant to Catholic? It seems, upon first hearing, a rather unusual thing for you to do. We'd love to learn more.
I have always worshipped at Catholic churches when I was on vacation because I felt at home there for a number of reasons. After leaving Mount Pisgah and my role as senior pastor, I really needed a place to worship where I could just be me. The Catholic Church is a place of solace and peace for me.
Although my family will not be making this transition with me, they are supportive and understand my need to be in a place I can actually be calm and worship.
My family and I will continue to support Mount Pisgah school and church in every way including our giving. However, my role is now different. Because our life is very public, we made a decision to be as honest and open as possible.
But it's not really personal, is it? Allen's public life and career have been based on a devotion to certain religious ideals and principles. Now he announces suddenly he is associating himself with a set of very different religious doctrines. Some people would feel like that deserves an explanation. Are the rest of us supposed to become Catholic too? Does it matter what people believe or to whom they pray?
Consider: if Mitt Romney or Hillary Clinton decided tomorrow to switch political parties I don't think they could get away with saying it was a "personal decision" and nobody else's business.
The Catholic Church of Atlanta welcomes you and is praying for you during this wonderful and I am sure difficult transition for you and your family. The reading of the Early Church Fathers and a unbiased reading of Christian history continues to lead so many to "cross the Tiber" to Rome. I can't wait to meet you and hear your testimony. Christ is awaiting you at the altar of sacrifice where he will feed you the graces of his very own body, blood, soul and divinity! May Christ be with as you join His church!
I don't see why this is viewed as any more "betraying" than, take for example my case, where I worshiped at Mount Pisgah, now I worship at a church called Stonecreek. Stonecreek is a church I identify with right now, and I find, helps intimately draw me into the presence of God. What's the controversy in that?
No, but I would think you would know that Allen would hope that the rest of "you" (are you saying your considering it Erik) would become Christian. Which denomination you align yourself with at a certain stage of life is somewhat irrelevant and frankly a personal decision between you and God.
Many Protestants would disagree vehemently.
http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0071/0071_01.asp
Sorry about that April Fools comment, you seem to be serious. Anyways then, I wish you lots of fun studying the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_INDEX.HTM
Oh and Andy, could you please enable direct linking here? I'd be much obliged.
And after becoming a Republican Hillary will say, "It doesn't matter since we are all Americans."
I guess I'm JUST CRAZY ENOUGH to think that Catholics and Protestants
have important theological differences.
Also LC- loved the Chick tract. That
was priceless.
The show you did on Catholicism was very revealing. It revealed your thorough knowledge of Catholicism and the incredible ignorance, even hatred, of so many callers, especially supposedly "ex-Catholics".
Rather than relying on nonsense from the likes of Jack Chick, you obviously studied and read the Church fathers and history of the Christian faith, not just the fathers of the reformation. It is a treasure indeed!
I think anyone who listens to your podcast of the show on Catholicism would discover many of the reasons for your conversion.
It is a sacrifice to leave a congregation, not to mention a good paying job. May God continue to bless and guide you.
Welcome home!
Somehow, I am not very surprised at this transition. I am a member at Mt. Pisgah and was aware of the benefit you received from going on retreats at the monastery for contemplation and renewal. I hope the Catholic church is a good fit for you. Catholic and Methodist, we are all worshipping the same God and the same Jesus. I wish you well.
Jesus' Only Church
Erik is quite correct about one thing; Catholics and Protestants do have important theological differences.
Both theologies stem from the same intent; however, they take into account different sets of data, and make a couple of different logical judgment-calls in the process of interpreting the data. As a result, they wind up with different conclusions...not different enough to be called different religions, but certainly different enough to be called radically different denominations.
The intent, of course, is to follow Christ through practicing the faith taught "once for all" to the apostles. The different sets of data are:
For Catholics:
For Protestants/Evangelicals:
Because Protestants and Catholics (and together with Catholics, the Eastern Orthodox) use these different data sets, they come to widely different conclusions about the nature of the Church, the interrelation of grace and works, and whether Christians in heaven continually play an active role in God's kingdom on earth. (Catholic and Orthodox Christians say they do play an ongoing role, whereas Protestant Christians either have never encountered the notion, or think it sounds like a fishy holdover from paganism; this results from their different emphases on the history of Christianity from AD 100 to 1500.)
But they all believe in God the Father Almighty, Maker of Heaven and Earth, and in Jesus, the Christ, His only begotten son, and in the Holy Spirit, in the resurrection of the body, and in salvation to everlasting life by grace through (living) faith (not works performed in our own power, "lest any man should boast") in Christ.
So while Erik's (presumably either jocular or flamebaiting) first statement about Allen no longer being a "Christian" is hugely mistaken, his later statement that Catholics and Protestants do differ theologically in ways is true as far as it goes.
Take a close look the following quotes and then tell me if you notice any similarities:
Genesis Ch. 3:4-5 And the serpent said to the woman,
Ye shall not surely die. For God doeth
know that in the day that ye eat thereof,
then your eyes shall be opened, and
YE SHALL BE AS GODS, knowing
good and evil.
*** Notice the serpent promises GODHOOD. This is a SATANIC TEACHING. If you investigate, you will also discover this was also the teaching of the pagan mystery religions and the Gnostics as well.... not to mention most modern cults. ***
Now, compare the words of the serpent to these quotes:
" For the Son of God became man so that we become God. The only begotten Son of God, wanting to make us sharers of his divinity, assumed our nature, so that he, made man, might make men gods. " Catechism of the Catholic Church p. 128-9
" Let us rejoice then and give thanks that we have become not only Chirstians, but Christ himself... we have become Christ... one and the same mystical person. " ibid p. 228-9
"... He makes us other Chirsts. " ibid p. 732-3
These quotes are not taken out of context. Christianity teaches that we can become Christ-like... not gods. Satan teaches that mankind's rightfull place is godhood. Be honest, which teaching is Biblical and which is satanic ?
If you can explain, logically, a different point of view regarding this Catholic doctrine, I welcome any non-emotional response.