Holly didn't happen to leave her phone number, did she? Erik wishes to counsel her privately.

Erik, you might want to watch the video before making the offer. She is a very healthy woman, to be kind.

Yikes. I just saw a pic of Hollie off the Oprah show (allen's muddle-headed blogging made it sound like she was an e-mailer)- you can keep her number. Or just give it to Andy.

oh who am I kidding. I'd do it.

Now you are sounding like Erik the Viking

Hey allen just got done with your podcast about Babies R Us...ect. I agree with all your points, cause most of the time they contain the most reason and logic. I do disagree with you on some politics, but that is beside the point.

I wanted to tell you that I recently went to the United Methodist Ministry at Kennesaw State University after randomly meeting someone the Arby's. As I found out they support the Wesley foundation. This brought back memories and reminded me of you actually from some of your preachings at the old church. I have to say it was very uplifting, it was something i won't forget for a long time, and it made me think ... was this god's plan?

Also...your point about Tyrone Willingham is totally legit. I still am wondering why Notre dame did that. I think at the time they thought 6-6 or something was unaceptable. Charlie Weis was riding Bill's superbowl run and cashed out. Now this season they are what 1-4 at best. The football team has lots of work to do turning that one around.

Take care :)
colin.

Allen, you must realize we are in the 21st century now. These things are perfectly normal for a modern couple.
Hell, these days, you can even have an open personal relationship with your Lord and Savior (tm):
http://www.theonion.com/content/opinion/im_in_an_open_relationship_with

by the way allen we were the tall family in the balcony of your old church, if that strikes any bells.

um keep "doing work," my family and I will be listening :) Your ministry in radio is helping thousands hear our message.

thanks,
colin

Who's to know if this will wreck their marriage or not? When we see divorce rates at 50-80%, and spouses or ex-spouses, & their children, victims of "murder-suicides" in epidemic proportion, I don't think anyone has a finger on what the formula is for a successful marriage!

Polygamy, or even the simple lack of sexual monogamy, has been the lifestyle of many millions, throughout history, and many marriages remained strong & together. It's far more important that both partners are "on the same page", as far as whatever their specific values & "ground rules"may be. I've known very successful, long-term marriages, where they may not have (or require) sexual fidelity, but certainly do have a very strong bond of "heart & soul fidelity", along with honesty (even if that honesty is agreeing to "don't ask, don't tell")...

We seem to be so quick to judge others, as if we have all the answers, much less know with any certainty what is in their hearts!

Likewise, I find the near hysterical paranoia so many have, that allowing gay couples to marry, "will destroy marriage" in America, both repugnant (what right does anyone have to tell others how they must "relate" to their life's mate), and absurd! For how the hell does the term John & Joe choose to define their relationship, in any way whatsoever affect MY marriage, and MY relationship?

If gays being married, or entering into "civil unions" is simply all too much for some to handle, then just don't marry one!

I understood that this was a site for faith. If it is the christian faith then it should follow the teaching of the Bible. Homosexuality is clearly condemned in the Bible to the point that God REQUIRES the death penalty for those caught practicing it. (Lev. 20)This is true of both male and female homosexuality. Also the act of sexual encounter with a female who is married to another man is called adultery and also requires the death penalty. A man (married or single) who has sex with an unmarried woman is reqired to marry her whether or not he is already married. Polygamy is not at all the same thing as 'SWINGING' or 'HOMOSEXUALITY'. One should never confuse what the Bible commands with what the Bible forbids.

God REQUIRES the death penalty for those caught practicing it.

God also requires that when the sabbath is broken (Ex. 31). Same thing for disobeying parents (Deut 21). As well has having sex during menstruation (Lev 20).

The problem with your argument is it is antiquated. I am not saying that homosexuality isn't a sin. I am not saying swinging isn't a sin. But the whole, "it's the worse of all sins because God prescribes death in the Old Testament" really doesn't stand up logically because we don't hold that to other areas where He prescribes the same thing.

Heck, even Jesus disobeyed this when he let the woman caught in adultery go without being stoned - which breaks Deut. 22. Maybe somebody should tell Jesus to read the Bible.

Frankly, I will chose to approach grace, forgiveness and sin the way Jesus did.

If it is the christian faith then it should follow the teaching of the Bible.

Exactly. The entire Bible. Not just proof texting the specific passages we like to support our own personal belief system.

I know many polygamous families from different religions, and have found them to be some of the most well adjusted and joyful relationships in this society. They have the lowest divorce rates, lowest abuse rates, and highest educational rates and business success rates. Maybe we need to take another look as a society what we forbid and what we condone.

I know many polygamous families from different religions, and have found them to be some of the most well adjusted and joyful relationships in this society. Maybe we need to take another look as a society what we forbid and what we condone.

Amen, Pastor! praise the Lord!